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Re:Why Is This Website Port Scanning Me? by Wowfunhappy on Wednesday May 20, 2020 @02:13PM (#23249975)
I realize Hacker News isn't a hivemind, but I see these two assertions frequently, and I find the contradiction striking:

1. Why are web browsers becoming application platforms? Web browsers are document readers, and we should treat them as such.

2. Why does Zoom (or Slack, or insert-thing-here) want me to download a native app? I should be able to do it in my web browser!

I sympathize with both philosophies, but they cannot co-exist.

Re:Why Is This Website Port Scanning Me? by dullgiulio on Wednesday May 20, 2020 @02:27PM (#23250111)
Nope, this is a strawman argument you're making.

Parent is asking for granular access control over these very advanced and double-edged features, which is a perfectly valid request.

Having permissions is the norm for native apps on mobile, and it's slowly becoming the norm also on desktop, finally.

Browsers are the new OS, they have to implement permissions too without anything enabled by default.

Re:Why Is This Website Port Scanning Me? by asveikau on Wednesday May 20, 2020 @11:50PM (#23254621)
Actually I think there's middle ground or a way to somewhat satisfy both.

Does Zoom, Slack, or insert-thing-here need the technical ability to portscan localhost in the manner of this blog post? Well, Zoom had their vulnerability making web requests to their app bound to localhost, but did they need to be able to do it? They could get the job done without that functionality.

They already have both an app and a web-only experience. (They try to hide the latter by only presenting the option when the former has evidently failed, but it's still there.) So, it has it both ways by your 1 & 2. Almost as if users should be able to choose.