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Re:15 years later: remote code execution in qmail by jedberg on Wednesday May 20, 2020 @01:51PM (#23249744)
DJB makes great code, but it always leaves a sour taste to use his code, because he has such a big ego and refuses to admit when he makes a mistake. He can't admit that it's possible to be the best but still make mistakes.

I really hate supporting that.

Re:15 years later: remote code execution in qmail by linsomniac on Wednesday May 20, 2020 @02:53PM (#23250390)
I once was talking to one of the household-name DNS guys and asked what he thought about djbdns and he said something along the lines of: "It's unfortunate that he's so abrasive, because he has some really great ideas that nobody will listen to because of it."

I've more recently come a little bit to terms with this whole abrasive thing being a brain chemistry artifact, and not just being an asshole for assholes sake. Because it seems to disproportionately impact those of us in the technical field. Not to excuse it, but to understand it.

Re:15 years later: remote code execution in qmail by ergothus on Wednesday May 20, 2020 @04:59PM (#23251725)
I'm not a psychologist so I should probably shut up, but I'll continue:

It seems like it does hit the tech field more often, yet overwhelmingly I see leading people in tech get softer, more empathetic, and more open to outside ideas the longer they work and the more experience they gain.

Perhaps this is selection bias (the people I see are the "popular" ones, so of course they are the ones with more social awareness), or perhaps there is no hard and fast "genius requires ego". Note: I'm aware you didn't say that it did, you only mentioned that abrasive-ness seems disproportionately frequent in the tech field.

I'm all for improving our understanding and ways of communication - I've definitely known people in the "asshole" category that were surprised and bothered to discover that was how they came across - but I'm not interested in normalizing abuse as a necessary cost. Which, again, you didn't say nor imply, but the concepts are related to what you've brought up, so I mention it here because the topic is interesting, not as a counterpoint.

Re:15 years later: remote code execution in qmail by mcguire on Wednesday May 20, 2020 @07:17PM (#23253154)
Obvious Philosophy of Mind question of the day: What is the difference between a brain chemistry artifact and being an asshole for assholes sake?
Re:15 years later: remote code execution in qmail by gowld on Wednesday May 20, 2020 @05:36PM (#23252097)
LPT: take a shortcuts to success by listening to djb and plagiarzing his ideas.
Re:15 years later: remote code execution in qmail by SmallPeePeeMan on Wednesday May 20, 2020 @04:12PM (#23251207)
> Not to excuse it, but to understand it.

Indeed. I don’t have to abide such people, and neither do you. Now if he had found a cure for cancer, would we have more tolerance?

Re:15 years later: remote code execution in qmail by dependenttypes on Thursday May 21, 2020 @01:57AM (#23255262)
> and refuses to admit

I wish people stopped repeating it over and over. See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23250748

Re:15 years later: remote code execution in qmail by jedberg on Thursday May 21, 2020 @02:00AM (#23255284)
So he paid a bonus one time? And that negates all the other times he refused to admit he was wrong (including the time this very article is about, twice)?
Re:15 years later: remote code execution in qmail by dependenttypes on Thursday May 21, 2020 @04:50AM (#23256219)
> So he paid a bonus one time?

Yes, which invalidates your statement that said "refuses to admit when he makes a mistake".

> And that negates all the other times he refused to admit he was wrong

No, I personally think that he should have awarded the 2005 report.

Considering that we have one example where he rewarded the bountry and one where he did not I would say that "he has such a big ego and refuses to admit when he makes a mistake" is just as valid as "he is humble and admits it when he makes a mistake"

Re:15 years later: remote code execution in qmail by bhk on Thursday May 21, 2020 @01:00AM (#23254949)
> I really hate supporting that.

It appears the only victim of your spite is yourself. (Hmmm... there's an old saying along these lines.)