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Re:Tesla plans to build a new car factory in Texas by _Microft on Monday May 18, 2020 @12:09PM (#23224256)
According to Wikipedia (german article on Tesla Gigafactory 3), Tesla went from the ground-breaking ceremony at beginning of january 2019 in Shanghai to first cars produced there in november of the same year.

They might be getting practice in building factories (what's the learning curve for car factories?).

Re:Tesla plans to build a new car factory in Texas by foota on Monday May 18, 2020 @12:11PM (#23224307)
I assumed this was due to Chinese experience building factories and a large labor pool, would be impressive to replicate that time here.
Re:Tesla plans to build a new car factory in Texas by 7thaccount on Monday May 18, 2020 @12:27PM (#23224557)
The safety requirements are so much more lax that I'm willing to bet it makes building a factory much quicker in China.
Re:Tesla plans to build a new car factory in Texas by chrisan on Monday May 18, 2020 @12:37PM (#23224701)
Probably also more lax in TX than CA
Re:Tesla plans to build a new car factory in Texas by pvarangot on Monday May 18, 2020 @01:03PM (#23225093)
Not a chance, I worked with similarly regulated providers in the US.
Re:Tesla plans to build a new car factory in Texas by xur17 on Monday May 18, 2020 @02:37PM (#23226588)
CA is more lax than TX? I find that surprising.
Re:Tesla plans to build a new car factory in Texas by AnthonyMouse on Monday May 18, 2020 @03:16PM (#23227123)
https://workinjurysource.com/workplace-injury-statistics-201...

> States with Non-Fatal Workplace Illness and Injury Rates Above the National Average:

> California

> States with Non-Fatal Workplace Illness and Injury Rates Below the National Average:

> Texas

It's completely possible that Texas is less adversarial/bureaucratic or similar than California, but whatever they're doing is working.

Though it could be cultural differences. Government regulations are often half good best practices and half harmful backwards nonsense. A culture that only calls OSHA for not following best practices even after having it pointed out and not for not implementing backwards nonsense could pretty easily end up with a better safety record than one that prioritizes strict compliance over actual safety.

Re:Tesla plans to build a new car factory in Texas by jcranmer on Monday May 18, 2020 @03:30PM (#23227288)
That statistic is nearly completely useless for comparison.

For starters, it's measuring non-fatal illnesses. If your regulatory regime is converting otherwise fatal accidents to non-fatal ones, then you're going to have higher rates despite being safer. (Historically, this has happened: the introduction of helmets in WW1 caused head injury rates to go up... because people who otherwise died now lived with a head injury instead).

Another point is that states have quite different workplace characteristics, so the baseline risks are going to be quite different. Working in a coal mine is going to be an inherently more dangerous job than being a paper-pusher in an office tower. Unsurprisingly, West Virginia (which has a lot more of the former than the latter) is in the above-average list and New York (which has the reverse) is in the below-average list.

Finally... there's no mention of the degree of difference at all.

Re:Tesla plans to build a new car factory in Texas by AnthonyMouse on Monday May 18, 2020 @04:14PM (#23227794)
> For starters, it's measuring non-fatal illnesses.

This actually helps to mitigate your other point, because all types of industries can have non-fatal injuries from things like overexertion or slips on wet floors but fatal injuries are dominated by dangerous industries like mining, transportation and agriculture that differ by state.

The fatal injury rate between states is quite incomparable in particular because motor vehicle accidents are the leading cause of death among working-aged people, and the rate will be higher in states that are more spread out because workers in all industries there log more vehicle miles for work (and at higher average speeds).

> Finally... there's no mention of the degree of difference at all.

Texas can't be worse if it's better.

Re:Tesla plans to build a new car factory in Texas by snowwrestler on Monday May 18, 2020 @02:59PM (#23226909)
I think he said TX is not more lax than CA, which doesn't mean CA is more lax either. It's possible their safety regimes are simply similar.

I think a lot of workplace safety rolls up to the feds anyway, so it wouldn't matter which state you choose.

Re:Tesla plans to build a new car factory in Texas by lolsal on Monday May 18, 2020 @01:00PM (#23225055)
What makes you think this?
Re:Tesla plans to build a new car factory in Texas by rconti on Monday May 18, 2020 @01:16PM (#23225310)
Part of the state's business model is bragging about businesses "fleeing" high-tax, high-regulation states like CA.

Also, there was a thread a few days back about OSHA requirements; the Federal government sets minimum standards but each state's OSHA is free to set higher standard on top of that.

There is a line of thinking (at least, among Tesla apologists) that CalOSHA is "the reason" that Tesla has the "most reported safety incidents" of auto mfgrs.