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Re:Google deletes “communist bandits” from comments on Youtube by mikaeluman on Monday May 18, 2020 @11:30AM (#23223609)
Imagine you posting “nazi bandits” on a WW2 video and seeing it vanish after 15s.

We in the IT community need to disassociate with google as much as we possibly can.

Free speech is more important than ever.

Re:Google deletes “communist bandits” from comments on Youtube by leoh on Monday May 18, 2020 @01:49PM (#23225828)
It's more complex than that. Imagine that you are a US company operating in Germany that provides German citizens with an incredible amount of information that wouldn't otherwise be available. You have thousands of people working in Germany. Occasionally, the Nazis ask you to censor things, If you don't, your entire team is at risk and will all loose their employment and citizens of Germany will loose access to an incredible amount of information and services. It's not cut and dry.
Re:Google deletes “communist bandits” from comments on Youtube by himinlomax on Monday May 18, 2020 @03:11PM (#23227060)
A more fitting parabole would be, a US company banned from operating in Germany that could provide German citizens with an incredible amount of information if only the German government didn't block any access to its service.

Because in case you hadn't noticed, Google is entirely blocked in communist China.

Re:Google deletes “communist bandits” from comments on Youtube by chance_state on Monday May 18, 2020 @02:03PM (#23226043)
>It's not cut and dry.

Yeah, it actually is. You tell the Nazi's to fuck off and if they kick you out, they kick you out.

Re:Google deletes “communist bandits” from comments on Youtube by tomc1985 on Tuesday May 19, 2020 @01:52AM (#23231646)
And then a number of your former staff and their families are kidnapped and sent into work/death camps
Re:Google deletes “communist bandits” from comments on Youtube by anigbrowl on Monday May 18, 2020 @02:12PM (#23226198)
How do you feel about the German proscription on Nazi symbolism/speech? It's not absolute; for example, Mein Kampf is still published in Germany, but in academic critical editions which provide extensive historical information to place it in context.
Re:Google deletes “communist bandits” from comments on Youtube by himinlomax on Tuesday May 19, 2020 @08:25AM (#23234058)
The restrictions on Nazi symbolism are clearly infringing on freedom of speech, and should be recognized as such.

On the other hand, they are somewhat limited in scope (though not enough to my taste, see video games) and more importantly, understandable in their very specific context. They were arguably needed in the aftermath of WW2 when denazification didn't go as smoothly and naturally as could have been hoped, if only to remove the social proof that Nazism might not have been entirely defeated.

Re:Google deletes “communist bandits” from comments on Youtube by buboard on Monday May 18, 2020 @11:52AM (#23223992)
There s no “we” in the IT community, theres the “well funded groupthink” and “the sea of the unknowns”. When did the IT band together to achieve something?
Re:Google deletes “communist bandits” from comments on Youtube by PostOnce on Monday May 18, 2020 @07:58PM (#23229798)
Plenty of times, see the entire open source movement or the cypherpunks, or the browser wars in which Firefox was a major competitor, there must be tons of examples.
Re:Google deletes “communist bandits” from comments on Youtube by chillacy on Monday May 18, 2020 @10:05PM (#23230615)
I'm not quite sure the "we" encompasses a majority in all of these examples... especially the "browser wars" where firefox users are a definite minority (compared to IE users). But maybe you mean "we" as in "we the resistance" or something. After all the engineers Microsoft hired to build up IE were also part of the IT world.
Re:Google deletes “communist bandits” from comments on Youtube by _4ziu on Monday May 18, 2020 @12:38PM (#23224719)
The CCP is not the same as nazis. This is silly.
Re:Google deletes “communist bandits” from comments on Youtube by mellow2020 on Monday May 18, 2020 @12:53PM (#23224924)
"communist bandits" doesn't refer to communists in general.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_bandit

Re:Google deletes “communist bandits” from comments on Youtube by jwond on Monday May 18, 2020 @12:54PM (#23224940)
You’re right, they’re not the same. Communists have killed more people.
Re:Google deletes “communist bandits” from comments on Youtube by yandrypozo on Monday May 18, 2020 @12:59PM (#23225024)
communism has killed more people than any other ideology or regime: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prague_Declaration_on_European...
Re:Google deletes “communist bandits” from comments on Youtube by _4ziu on Monday May 18, 2020 @01:00PM (#23225054)
I simply said they were not the same. You and another commenter have incorrectly inferred that I was talking about their victims. Says a lot more about you than it does about me.
Re:Google deletes “communist bandits” from comments on Youtube by blfr on Monday May 18, 2020 @02:13PM (#23226219)
They're (correctly) pointing out that communists are worse than nazis. Why would we offer them more protection in any way?