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Re:America's Growth Ponzi Scheme by fennecfoxen on Monday May 18, 2020 @10:50AM (#23223041)
> why we haven't openly branded certain members of congress and the current administration traitors and dealt with them appropriately is beyond me.

What is "appropriate" for "traitors"? Execution? Prison? Being stripped of their rights, including the right to participate in the democratic process?

You see, the irony is that alleging vague subversive activity from your political enemies and then dealing with the "traitors" like this subverts the republic, turning it into a new oligarchy. It's a very banana-republic suggestion.

Re:America's Growth Ponzi Scheme by Grimm1 on Monday May 18, 2020 @10:59AM (#23223160)
It's almost like we have laws that dictate how we deal with them and as such the appropriate way to deal with them is what our laws state.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2381

Re:America's Growth Ponzi Scheme by fennecfoxen on Monday May 18, 2020 @11:09AM (#23223282)
So for the crime of treason, you advocate death — or at least five-year prison sentences with $10,000+ fines — for various not-explicitly-identified Trump administration members. That's cool and edgy, I guess. But, well....

It's almost like our Constitution spells out how "Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort." https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articleiii

It's almost like James Madison knew from experience there'd be someone who would float this type of proposal, and so codified a rebuke into the supreme law of the land, some 200 years in advance.

(Postscript. The obvious next step is for you to change your mind and stop saying these random members are committing oligarchycrimes and say instead that Trump himself is giving "aid and comfort" to our enemies in Russia. I'm sure there's some lovely jurisprudence to be had getting that laughed out of the courts and wish you the best of luck.)

Re:America's Growth Ponzi Scheme by Grimm1 on Monday May 18, 2020 @11:20AM (#23223428)
Right but, "or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort." is the part Trump is a traitor for and Mitch + a whole gaggle of flunkies beneath them.
Re:America's Growth Ponzi Scheme by fennecfoxen on Monday May 18, 2020 @11:26AM (#23223526)
Looks like I called it, and wrote it in my postscript, even as you were replying! Good show.
Re:America's Growth Ponzi Scheme by Grimm1 on Monday May 18, 2020 @11:57AM (#23224079)
Porque no los dos? I think they're guilty of a lot of things not one or the other but being taken down by treason for aiding foreign powers solves the oligarchy issue. I think he's pretty much walking garbage.