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Re:Dutch spies helped Britain's GCHQ break Argentine crypto ... by the-dude on Monday May 18, 2020 @07:51AM (#23221175)
As a Dutch citizen, I am very suspicious about this story. Sounds too good to be true? Probably is not true.

The timing was also amazingly convenient.

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Re:Dutch spies helped Britain's GCHQ break Argentine crypto ... by pocket_titan on Monday May 18, 2020 @08:08AM (#23221302)
As another Dutch citizen, it's a true story! Read about it here: https://amp.nos.nl/artikel/2213762-hackteam-aivd-gaf-fbi-cru...
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Re:Dutch spies helped Britain's GCHQ break Argentine crypto ... by BozeWolf on Monday May 18, 2020 @10:35AM (#23222791)
I advice to read this book then: https://www.bol.com/nl/p/het-is-oorlog-maar-niemand-die-het-...

It was in there. Pretty interesting read as well. Lots of stuff on FoxIT and the guy behind it.

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Re:Dutch spies helped Britain's GCHQ break Argentine crypto ... by elliekelly on Monday May 18, 2020 @11:40AM (#23223794)
It doesn’t seem an English translation of the book has been released yet. I don’t speak Dutch so apologies if this is a silly question but when you mention FoxIT are you referring to the PDF application?
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Re:Dutch spies helped Britain's GCHQ break Argentine crypto ... by codnee on Monday May 18, 2020 @12:08PM (#23224234)
It's this FoxIT I imagine: https://www.fox-it.com/en/
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Re:Dutch spies helped Britain's GCHQ break Argentine crypto ... by elliekelly on Monday May 18, 2020 @12:54PM (#23224948)
Ah, that makes much more sense! Thanks!
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Re:Dutch spies helped Britain's GCHQ break Argentine crypto ... by the-dude on Monday May 18, 2020 @08:53AM (#23221689)
I know it has been reported in the news. Does not make it true.
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Re:Dutch spies helped Britain's GCHQ break Argentine crypto ... by ciarannolan on Monday May 18, 2020 @09:30AM (#23222045)
They were pretty public with the evidence when it came out (including releasing security camera footage and names of Russian agents). Which parts do you think are false?
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Re:Dutch spies helped Britain's GCHQ break Argentine crypto ... by coldtea on Monday May 18, 2020 @10:42AM (#23222908)
And those names can't be faked (or belong to true people but not relevant to what they supposedly did) because?

I'd be sceptical of any "revelation" from such agencies...

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Re:Dutch spies helped Britain's GCHQ break Argentine crypto ... by ciarannolan on Monday May 18, 2020 @07:44PM (#23229718)
There's evidence that it's substantially true (ex. security camera footage and confirmation by most worldwide press outlets).

Curious if you have evidence that it's fabricated? Other than your distrust of intelligence agencies in general.

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Re:Dutch spies helped Britain's GCHQ break Argentine crypto ... by coldtea on Monday May 18, 2020 @09:17PM (#23230310)
>Curious if you have evidence that it's fabricated?

What happened to the burden of proof?

Especially from professional liars like intelligence agencies...

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Re:Dutch spies helped Britain's GCHQ break Argentine crypto ... by ciarannolan on Monday May 18, 2020 @09:30PM (#23230398)
So, no?
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Re:Dutch spies helped Britain's GCHQ break Argentine crypto ... by coldtea on Tuesday May 19, 2020 @08:54AM (#23234306)
No, they don't have any proof just a claim we should take at face value.
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Re:Dutch spies helped Britain's GCHQ break Argentine crypto ... by ciarannolan on Tuesday May 19, 2020 @11:58AM (#23236307)
Are you being intentionally obtuse?
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Re:Dutch spies helped Britain's GCHQ break Argentine crypto ... by rramadass on Monday May 18, 2020 @11:18AM (#23223395)
Agree with you. Sounds too good to be True. IMO, Probably somebody had a mole inside GRU who was instrumental in getting the info. but in order to provide cover for its source, they invented a success story of the AIVD.
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Re:Dutch spies helped Britain's GCHQ break Argentine crypto ... by brnt on Monday May 18, 2020 @05:06PM (#23228372)
There isn't much literature on it (Dutch spying activities), but the little there is might convince you.

A fun exercise is applying with the AIVD or NFI (involved in spying on home soil). You may meet someone who can tell you some good war stories. Of course, you'll be bound not to speak of it outside company walls ;)

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