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Re:No One Goes There Anymore by cortesoft on Saturday May 16, 2020 @11:35PM (#23209371)
This doesn't make sense. If I decide to give more money to the government, nothing will change because my money is a drop in the bucket.

If everyone gives more money, we can actually make things better.

I am willing to pay more taxes if it actually helps, which is why I will only give more when we make everyone give more.

Re:No One Goes There Anymore by gfxgirl on Saturday May 16, 2020 @11:55PM (#23209444)
There's an assumption there that more money to government = make things better but there are plenty of examples where the government makes things worse.

Some people believe that giving less = actually make things better because it will limit the bad things a government can do.

Re:No One Goes There Anymore by landryraccoon on Sunday May 17, 2020 @12:48AM (#23209660)
More money or less money isn't the issue. I would have no problem with way paying much more to the government if it's for services that are beneficial, and I think we're paying too much for services that are not.

When it comes to healthcare, the vast weight of the evidence supports strong government intervention in healthcare. When examples of profit driven healthcare exist, the vast weight of the evidence would lead you to conclude that it is less efficient and more expensive, delivering worse outcomes for higher cost.

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Re:No One Goes There Anymore by bryanrasmussen on Sunday May 17, 2020 @12:38AM (#23209623)
Is there a venn diagram of Randians and flat-earthers somewhere?

on edit: changed libertarians to Randians.

Re:No One Goes There Anymore by bryanrasmussen on Monday May 18, 2020 @03:26AM (#23219362)
damn, I've evidently offended some flat-earthers out there.
Re:No One Goes There Anymore by cortesoft on Sunday May 17, 2020 @12:47AM (#23209652)
I can accept that belief and argument. If you believe that, I understand.

I was just arguing against the idea of 'you just pay more taxes if you want to' being a solution.

Re:No One Goes There Anymore by masonic on Sunday May 17, 2020 @03:16AM (#23210267)

   I will only give more when we make everyone give more
If everyone took the same attitude towards energy consumption or pollution, we'd make no progress at all.
Re:No One Goes There Anymore by jotm on Sunday May 17, 2020 @03:37AM (#23210368)
Isn't that already the case? :/

Only government legislation is working. It is people pushing for it, but they still mostly have the same mentality of "I will only do X when everyone does X".