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Re:So much of academia is about connections and reputation l... by pdonis on Friday May 15, 2020 @08:59PM (#23199405)
> The exact opposite of government control over industry.

Only in the sense of "industry control over government". Which doesn't strike me as any improvement.

The true opposite would be "industry has to fend for itself without being able to co-opt government to tilt the playing field in its favor".

Re:So much of academia is about connections and reputation l... by leto_ii on Friday May 15, 2020 @09:12PM (#23199492)
> The true opposite would be "industry has to fend for itself without being able to co-opt government to tilt the playing field in its favor".

Sure, good point. However I don't think it's possible or desirable to let industry be completely independent of the state. It seems to me that would lead us right back to our current predicament - power would concentrate and it would start putting pressure on the state.

Re:So much of academia is about connections and reputation l... by pdonis on Friday May 15, 2020 @09:37PM (#23199657)
> power would concentrate and it would start putting pressure on the state

The state itself is a concentration of power. Industry wants to co-opt it for that very reason.

Re:So much of academia is about connections and reputation l... by leto_ii on Saturday May 16, 2020 @04:39AM (#23201601)
Not saying that the state is a good thing. It's slightly better than a corporation though, because it's under some sort of democratic control.

Ideally though, all concentrations of power should be dismantled.

Re:So much of academia is about connections and reputation l... by disgruntledphd2 on Saturday May 16, 2020 @06:01AM (#23202093)
I'm not sure that's realistic, with respect to concentrations of power.

Whatever power you use to reduce concentrations of power would undoubtedly become quite powerful.

I think that it's probably better to attempt to reduce the size of any one concentration of power, and set them all up watching each other.

Re:So much of academia is about connections and reputation l... by leto_ii on Saturday May 16, 2020 @06:11AM (#23202162)
> it's probably better to attempt to reduce the size of any one concentration of power

Agreed. It would be great if power was as decentralised as possible and if individuals would take an active part in their (self-)government.