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Re:Ask HN: What programming skills are required by HFT or Tr... by ScottFree on Friday May 15, 2020 @11:07AM (#23193017)
The entire financial sector. It captures 30% of all corporate profits in the world economy. Ads are bad, but not "take 1/3 of what other people make" bad.
Re:Ask HN: What programming skills are required by HFT or Tr... by ploika on Friday May 15, 2020 @11:28AM (#23193289)
You're under absolutely no obligation to like it, but banks do provide essential services for a fee.

They're also (belatedly and sometimes decreasingly) heavily regulated in most of the world. What they do isn't always rent-seeking.

Re:Ask HN: What programming skills are required by HFT or Tr... by ScottFree on Friday May 15, 2020 @12:06PM (#23193768)
> banks do provide essential services for a fee. ... What they do isn't always rent-seeking.

Mob bosses own legitimate businesses. They're still crooks.

edit: Just FYI: I am not anti-bank. I am anti "capture 1/3 of all economic profits". No economy can survive that sort of parasitic activity in the long term, regardless of the intention behind it.

Re:Ask HN: What programming skills are required by HFT or Tr... by anthony_doan on Friday May 15, 2020 @11:46AM (#23193537)
> but banks do provide essential services for a fee.

They charge you for not having enough money in your checking account, while using your money to give out loans and make money off of that. Basically charging you for being poor while making money off of your by fee and loaning your money to other people.

I'm old enough to remember they never charge a fee for not having enough money in the bank account. I left my bank for a credit union.

Also Well Fargo was caught recently in a dubious sketchy scheme.

Re:Ask HN: What programming skills are required by HFT or Tr... by ipnon on Friday May 15, 2020 @11:51AM (#23193600)
Please note these activities are unrelated to high frequency trading.
Re:Ask HN: What programming skills are required by HFT or Tr... by anthony_doan on Friday May 15, 2020 @05:57PM (#23197979)
HFT isn't essential services.
Re:Ask HN: What programming skills are required by HFT or Tr... by thedufer on Saturday May 16, 2020 @08:48AM (#23202957)
NYC seems to disagree (at least some market makers are currently considered essential businesses).
Re:Ask HN: What programming skills are required by HFT or Tr... by derision on Friday May 15, 2020 @11:59AM (#23193699)
Not all banks do that
Re:Ask HN: What programming skills are required by HFT or Tr... by nnoitra on Friday May 15, 2020 @01:40PM (#23194952)
Most do. Interest rates are how those that have take from those that don't legally. Banks are just the executors of the idea.

It's a very complex systematic problem. I'm not saying burn all banks let's move to the jungle and eat coconuts.

Re:Ask HN: What programming skills are required by HFT or Tr... by derision on Friday May 15, 2020 @07:02PM (#23198519)
I mean not all banks have minimum balances or any fees at all on checking accounts. Not sure what you mean by interest rates. If I have a savings account I'm getting paid interest. If I take a loan I'm paying interest in exchange for access to the capital. What exactly is the issue here?
Re:Ask HN: What programming skills are required by HFT or Tr... by 3fe9a03ccd14ca5 on Friday May 15, 2020 @11:18AM (#23193147)
You’d figure bank stocks would be performing better, considering they’re capturing so much purported profits.
Re:Ask HN: What programming skills are required by HFT or Tr... by logfromblammo on Friday May 15, 2020 @11:45AM (#23193513)
Capturing other companies' profits is just step 1 in the plan to put as much of that money in your own pockets as possible.

If you're willing to "steal" from other companies, why wouldn't you also "steal" from the owners of your own company? Why pay a dividend when you can pay bonuses?

Re:Ask HN: What programming skills are required by HFT or Tr... by parenthesis on Friday May 15, 2020 @11:47AM (#23193545)
In many listed financial companies it is certain employees and management who do well financially, rather than the shareholders.
Re:Ask HN: What programming skills are required by HFT or Tr... by sweeneyrod on Friday May 15, 2020 @12:54PM (#23194375)
As Matt Levine puts it, investment banks are kind of like socialist collectives run for the benefits of their workers.
Re:Ask HN: What programming skills are required by HFT or Tr... by ScottFree on Friday May 15, 2020 @11:26AM (#23193251)
fair enough. Updated to specify the entire financial sector, not just banks.
Re:Ask HN: What programming skills are required by HFT or Tr... by gowld on Friday May 15, 2020 @03:26PM (#23196316)
App store takes 30% of revenue before you even start advertising..
Re:Ask HN: What programming skills are required by HFT or Tr... by ScottFree on Friday May 15, 2020 @06:32PM (#23198295)
The App store's main source of revenue isn't advertising, it's acting as a marketplace for apps. It also doesn't capture 30% of the entire economy that it operates in.