Re:US blocks shipments of semiconductors to Huawei
by ethbro on Friday May 15, 2020 @12:00PM
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At least in a democracy with a free press, you (the average person) can try to start a news frenzy and bug your elected government representatives to apply pressure on your behalf.
Re:US blocks shipments of semiconductors to Huawei
by Zooper on Friday May 15, 2020 @01:11PM
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I would argue that the US is not a representative democracy, and that it does not have a free press.
Re:US blocks shipments of semiconductors to Huawei
by greenhatman on Saturday May 16, 2020 @09:53AM
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But would you argue that citizens in the U.S. and China have basically equal rights?
Re:US blocks shipments of semiconductors to Huawei
by bilbo0s on Friday May 15, 2020 @02:27PM
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You have no elected officials. That's the point. You are an American being held for geopolitical reasons in China, or you are a Chinese citizen being held for geopolitical reasons in the US. There is no elected official representing you to which you can appeal. You're just screwed. Again, unless you are an elite and people will pull strings for you. But most of us here are not elites, we're too far down the chain. No one is going to pull strings for us. We just have to sit in prison until China and the US finish comparing bra sizes.
I'm saying both americans and chinese should be mindful of this risk when working in the other country.
Re:US blocks shipments of semiconductors to Huawei
by ethbro on Friday May 15, 2020 @08:45PM
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Last I checked, every American has an elected official. (Non-voting in the case of territories)
Has something changed?
Re:US blocks shipments of semiconductors to Huawei
by bilbo0s on Friday May 15, 2020 @11:12PM
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Yeah, they would have been arrested in China, where their elected official means exactly dick. The whole reason China arrested a patsy is to provoke the US. So how exactly is senator useless gonna get him out of jail? The entire reason the Chinese arrested him, was to anger senator useless and american media. Were it not for senator useless, the american wouldn't be sitting in a Chinese prison in the first place. Were it not for Chinese party member dickmouth, the Chinese guy would not be sitting in an american prison. The government officials are the problem, they're definitely not going rush right out to get a regular worker out of prison. At least not until they finish their argument over who has the best hair or whatever.
Putting faith in the government officials is just a bit naive I think.
Re:US blocks shipments of semiconductors to Huawei
by dang on Saturday May 16, 2020 @02:12PM
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Please stop using HN for ideological, political, or national flamewar. You've been doing it repeatedly, and that's not ok.
If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and sticking to the rules when posting here, we'd be grateful.
All nations have way too many laws. You will be in violation of one of them. So the only thing the Chinese or US government needs to do is pick a US or Chinese citizen, and then hold up the probably 10 laws that he/she is violating. It's impossible to live somewhere and be law abiding while simultaneously not knowing what all the laws are.
Let's be frank, we're not at the level of the elites in these nations who are arguing over which nation has the largest most attractive tits. On our level, and I'm talking to western and Chinese workers alike, but we're so far down the chain that we won't have people out there pulling strings for us. You don't want to be the hapless patsy sitting in US and Chinese prisons for 10 years while the elites compare dick size or whatever. To paraphrase that old adage, "They can remain irrational much longer than you can comfortably sit in prison."