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Re:Wisconsin Supreme Court strikes down stay-at-home order t... by bosswipe on Thursday May 14, 2020 @03:09PM (#23183976)
The decision invents a new law that says that DHS cannot issue an order that applies to the whole state, if it applies to the whole state it has to be a rule. Even though 252.02(04) says "Any rule or order may be made applicable to the whole or any specified part of the state, or to any vessel or other conveyance."
Re:Wisconsin Supreme Court strikes down stay-at-home order t... by cryptonector on Thursday May 14, 2020 @06:20PM (#23186270)
No, this decision does not invent new law (though courts do in fact make law, and it is seen as appropriate for them to do so, both under common law and since Marbury, so inventing new law, had they done so, wouldn't necessarily be innovating). The decision specifically cites the parts of Wisconsin code that apply to rulemaking and why Emergency Order 28 is a rule and not an order. Simply quoting from one part of the Wisconsin code ignoring the other parts that apparently apply (certainly, according to the Wisc. S.C.), is not enough to win an argument.
Re:Wisconsin Supreme Court strikes down stay-at-home order t... by bosswipe on Thursday May 14, 2020 @08:21PM (#23187449)
They found a tortured justification for the result they wanted.
Re:Wisconsin Supreme Court strikes down stay-at-home order t... by cryptonector on Thursday May 14, 2020 @09:38PM (#23187880)
I don't think it's tortured. I think it's a reasonable reading of Wisconsin statutes. Maybe you're torturing your reading of the decision. Or maybe I'm a shill. Any readers that stumble onto this sub-thread will just have to figure it out for themselves, and I suggest they read the opinion because it speaks for itself.
Re:Wisconsin Supreme Court strikes down stay-at-home order t... by bosswipe on Thursday May 14, 2020 @09:57PM (#23188025)
They should also read Judge Dallet's dissent which makes the same points I've been making.
Re:Wisconsin Supreme Court strikes down stay-at-home order t... by cryptonector on Friday May 15, 2020 @02:34PM (#23195663)
Admittedly I've not read it -- I assume it's reasonable, as I find the majority opinion to be. That's the thing with these court decisions: often you can justify either outcome in reasonable ways. There's no need to vilify anyone here -- it's truly distasteful what's been on display regarding this decision.