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Re:Wisconsin Supreme Court strikes down stay-at-home order t... by 9nGQluzmnq3M on Thursday May 14, 2020 @04:38AM (#23177007)
I've heard this broadly expressed as America being focused on (abstract) rights, when most of the rest of the Western world focuses on justice (of outcomes).

A pointed example of this is the criminal justice system, where people in the US have the right to stay silent, talk to a lawyer, etc, but still get screwed sideways with profoundly unjust outcomes due to plea bargaining, mandatory minimums, etc.

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Re:Wisconsin Supreme Court strikes down stay-at-home order t... by nonford150 on Thursday May 14, 2020 @10:55AM (#23180283)
It's in the nature of the US as such Rights are part of the first governing document (Constitution). The beginning says it all: "We hold these rights to be self-evident". The US was founded on opportunity, not outcomes (we can talk about all the people who were left out of that but it's a discussion for another time).
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Re:Wisconsin Supreme Court strikes down stay-at-home order t... by AnimalMuppet on Thursday May 14, 2020 @01:34PM (#23182620)
We hold these truths (not rights) to be self evident." And it's the Declaration of Independence, not the Constitution.
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Re:Wisconsin Supreme Court strikes down stay-at-home order t... by flyingfences on Thursday May 14, 2020 @01:48PM (#23182864)
"these truths" being that we are endowed with unalienable rights.
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Re:Wisconsin Supreme Court strikes down stay-at-home order t... by AnimalMuppet on Thursday May 14, 2020 @02:24PM (#23183335)
Sure. But that doesn't make the quote correct.
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