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Re:Dinosaur Footprints on a Cave Ceiling by hinkley on Thursday May 14, 2020 @12:33AM (#23175332)
I used to work with a guy who during his misspent youth was part of a group trying to set a record for the tallest cave systems, so they were looking high in the mountains and for certain geological formations.

The insight he shared with me was that caves don’t form in the softest or most permeable layers of rock. Instead they tend to form above the hardest layers - water wants to seek the lowest level and the only thing to stop it is a layer that’s hard, or impermeable. Whatever is above that is where the water does most of its work, even if there are softer layers further up.

So if I have it right, these dinosaur footprints were made upon a softer layer above very hard material that makes up the base of the cave, and the layer above those two was hard enough that it has so far resisted erosion, leaving effectively a stone cast of a dinosaur foot, rather than a footprint that has somehow been flipped 180 degrees.

Re:Dinosaur Footprints on a Cave Ceiling by rumanator on Thursday May 14, 2020 @02:54AM (#23176272)
> (...) leaving effectively a stone cast of a dinosaur foot, rather than a footprint that has somehow been flipped 180 degrees.

Yes, I also share that opinion. In fact, just by looking at the photo from Nature it seems like the cave's floor is comprised of upper strata that have cracked, broked off and fell down. If just so happened that the layer currently exposed has the imprint of some dinosaur footprints.

Perhaps other visitors didn't noticed it because the previous layer broke off recently?

Re:Dinosaur Footprints on a Cave Ceiling by hinkley on Thursday May 14, 2020 @03:30PM (#23184233)
Do archaeologists use the term 'footprint' differently than we use it colloquially, or is the title just wrong?

To me a footprint isn't shaped like my foot. It's something that my foot fits into.

Re:Dinosaur Footprints on a Cave Ceiling by api on Thursday May 14, 2020 @09:44AM (#23179374)
That's not a misspent youth. Most of the misspent youths I've seen involve some combination of rails of methamphetamine, injectable opiates, or jail.
Re:Dinosaur Footprints on a Cave Ceiling by aristophenes on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @09:10PM (#23173979)
Here's a link to an article from April 2nd that actually shows a picture of the cave ceiling: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-00972-y
Re:Dinosaur Footprints on a Cave Ceiling by Scaevolus on Thursday May 14, 2020 @06:49AM (#23177926)
Here's a higher res (3MP) photo from the paper PDF: https://i.imgur.com/8GUcuuP.jpg
Re:Dinosaur Footprints on a Cave Ceiling by syllable_studio on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @11:39PM (#23175006)
Thanks, here's a somewhat higher resolution image. https://media.nature.com/w3000/magazine-assets/d41586-020-00...
Re:Dinosaur Footprints on a Cave Ceiling by Meerax on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @09:15PM (#23174027)
Thanks! After reading the description of how the "prints" (they are more accurately called casts) came to be on the ceiling I really had hoped for some pictures.
Re:Dinosaur Footprints on a Cave Ceiling by thaumasiotes on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @11:46PM (#23175045)
That's fair, but on the other hand the graphic of "how did these get to be on the ceiling anyway" is a great addition to the scienceblog piece.
Re:Dinosaur Footprints on a Cave Ceiling by mc32 on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @09:14PM (#23174012)
Those prints are pretty big even taking perspective into consideration when you compare them to the people in the far background.
Re:Dinosaur Footprints on a Cave Ceiling by thaumasiotes on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @11:47PM (#23175050)
>> Some of the footprints show five toes as well as claws,” the scientist explains. “The largest are 1.25 metres in length, making them among the biggest ever identified worldwide
Re:Dinosaur Footprints on a Cave Ceiling by edumucelli on Thursday May 14, 2020 @09:51AM (#23179465)
Thanks, that is why I came here.
Re:Dinosaur Footprints on a Cave Ceiling by pvaldes on Thursday May 14, 2020 @06:19AM (#23177706)
Party hard

Apart of that, the presence of the footprints in the upper strata is not particularly strange. Dinosaur footprints are not so easy to spot for a non specialist. Often just a round concavity in the floor that could be done by anything.

Re:Dinosaur Footprints on a Cave Ceiling by rurp on Thursday May 14, 2020 @12:04AM (#23175145)
This is a really neat discovery. For those in the western US there is a pretty accessible sauropod trackway in Grand Staircase National Monument at a place called Twenty Mile Wash that is well worth checking out.
Re:Dinosaur Footprints on a Cave Ceiling by mrlonglong on Thursday May 14, 2020 @07:41PM (#23187116)
At first, my mind was blown by the facts dinos could walk on the ceiling, then I read the explanation.

A little disappointed here.

Re:Dinosaur Footprints on a Cave Ceiling by Descartes1 on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @11:45PM (#23175035)
Antigravosaurus was here.
Re:Dinosaur Footprints on a Cave Ceiling by hardlianotion on Thursday May 14, 2020 @05:48AM (#23177513)
Sounds like top trolling by the dinos in question.
Re:Dinosaur Footprints on a Cave Ceiling by thih9 on Thursday May 14, 2020 @06:27AM (#23177769)
The article describes that dinosaurs made footprints on the ground, it took ages and a number of geological processes for the footprints to appear on a cave ceiling.
Re:Dinosaur Footprints on a Cave Ceiling by hardlianotion on Thursday May 14, 2020 @07:28AM (#23178197)
Thanks. I have stopped thinking they were lying on their backs and smiling to themselves.
Re:Dinosaur Footprints on a Cave Ceiling by valuearb on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @11:38PM (#23175000)
Creationists are going to have a field day with this.