Re:Dinosaur Footprints on a Cave Ceiling
by hinkley on Thursday May 14, 2020 @12:33AM
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I used to work with a guy who during his misspent youth was part of a group trying to set a record for the tallest cave systems, so they were looking high in the mountains and for certain geological formations.
The insight he shared with me was that caves don’t form in the softest or most permeable layers of rock. Instead they tend to form above the hardest layers - water wants to seek the lowest level and the only thing to stop it is a layer that’s hard, or impermeable. Whatever is above that is where the water does most of its work, even if there are softer layers further up.
So if I have it right, these dinosaur footprints were made upon a softer layer above very hard material that makes up the base of the cave, and the layer above those two was hard enough that it has so far resisted erosion, leaving effectively a stone cast of a dinosaur foot, rather than a footprint that has somehow been flipped 180 degrees.
Re:Dinosaur Footprints on a Cave Ceiling
by rumanator on Thursday May 14, 2020 @02:54AM
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> (...) leaving effectively a stone cast of a dinosaur foot, rather than a footprint that has somehow been flipped 180 degrees.
Yes, I also share that opinion. In fact, just by looking at the photo from Nature it seems like the cave's floor is comprised of upper strata that have cracked, broked off and fell down. If just so happened that the layer currently exposed has the imprint of some dinosaur footprints.
Perhaps other visitors didn't noticed it because the previous layer broke off recently?
Re:Dinosaur Footprints on a Cave Ceiling
by Meerax on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @09:15PM
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Thanks! After reading the description of how the "prints" (they are more accurately called casts) came to be on the ceiling I really had hoped for some pictures.
Re:Dinosaur Footprints on a Cave Ceiling
by thaumasiotes on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @11:47PM
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>> Some of the footprints show five toes as well as claws,” the scientist explains. “The largest are 1.25 metres in length, making them among the biggest ever identified worldwide
Re:Dinosaur Footprints on a Cave Ceiling
by pvaldes on Thursday May 14, 2020 @06:19AM
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Party hard
Apart of that, the presence of the footprints in the upper strata is not particularly strange. Dinosaur footprints are not so easy to spot for a non specialist. Often just a round concavity in the floor that could be done by anything.
Re:Dinosaur Footprints on a Cave Ceiling
by rurp on Thursday May 14, 2020 @12:04AM
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This is a really neat discovery. For those in the western US there is a pretty accessible sauropod trackway in Grand Staircase National Monument at a place called Twenty Mile Wash that is well worth checking out.
Re:Dinosaur Footprints on a Cave Ceiling
by thih9 on Thursday May 14, 2020 @06:27AM
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The article describes that dinosaurs made footprints on the ground, it took ages and a number of geological processes for the footprints to appear on a cave ceiling.
The insight he shared with me was that caves don’t form in the softest or most permeable layers of rock. Instead they tend to form above the hardest layers - water wants to seek the lowest level and the only thing to stop it is a layer that’s hard, or impermeable. Whatever is above that is where the water does most of its work, even if there are softer layers further up.
So if I have it right, these dinosaur footprints were made upon a softer layer above very hard material that makes up the base of the cave, and the layer above those two was hard enough that it has so far resisted erosion, leaving effectively a stone cast of a dinosaur foot, rather than a footprint that has somehow been flipped 180 degrees.
Yes, I also share that opinion. In fact, just by looking at the photo from Nature it seems like the cave's floor is comprised of upper strata that have cracked, broked off and fell down. If just so happened that the layer currently exposed has the imprint of some dinosaur footprints.
Perhaps other visitors didn't noticed it because the previous layer broke off recently?
To me a footprint isn't shaped like my foot. It's something that my foot fits into.
Apart of that, the presence of the footprints in the upper strata is not particularly strange. Dinosaur footprints are not so easy to spot for a non specialist. Often just a round concavity in the floor that could be done by anything.
A little disappointed here.