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Re:America is stuck at home, but food-delivery companies sti... by puranjay on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @02:56PM (#23170361)
I still don't understand why there is a single global (or rather, country-wide) app for food delivery. Unlike getting cabs, this is hardly something you do when you're away from your home city.

If you had an app that only served, say, NYC, you can reduce burn drastically, not worry about scale issues too much, and run a business that's profitable without screwing over either the restaurant or the delivery person.

This is absolutely a problem that can and should be solved at a local level. As a consumer, you gain nothing by using an app that serves 100+ cities.

Re:America is stuck at home, but food-delivery companies sti... by choward on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @05:17PM (#23171932)
I still don't understand the idea of "apps" for everything. There no reason these aren't just web apps which can be accessed by people who don't have phones. Dividing these apps into arbitrary regions seems pointless. And if it's just a web app who cares if I visit fooddeliversite.com/region or fooddeliverysiteforregion.com. The only difference is I have to create an account for each site with the latter which is very inconvenient.
Re:America is stuck at home, but food-delivery companies sti... by propogandist on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @06:21PM (#23172513)
>I still don't understand the idea of "apps" for everything.

how would apple and google get a 30% commission off a web-app?! you must create an app!

There's an massive ecosystem built around the current model and a lot of money that can be siphoned off. Just take a look at the AdTech space

>Probe finds middlemen siphon off half of online advertising spend

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2020/05/07/ad_tech_fees_sucked...

Re:America is stuck at home, but food-delivery companies sti... by JMTQp8lwXL on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @03:18PM (#23170653)
Anecdotal, but I only use food delivery apps when I travel, specifically for business trips. After flights + a long day in a possibly unfamiliar area, I defer to the app.
Re:America is stuck at home, but food-delivery companies sti... by ghaff on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @04:35PM (#23171541)
I admittedly tend to do business travel to cities but TBH, eating out at a nice restaurant is one of the perks of having to travel--not having a probably lousy pizza delivered to my hotel.

But then, I know a lot of people who do room service and I haven't in literally decades.

Re:America is stuck at home, but food-delivery companies sti... by taylortbb on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @05:06PM (#23171833)
90% of the time, I agree with you. Expensing nice restaurants I want to try is one of the best perks of business travel.

The other 10% of the time, my flight got delayed and I arrived at my hotel at midnight. I want nothing more than to eat something quick and simple, and get to sleep. That's where room service or a food delivery app comes in, and at a lot of hotels the room service after midnight is a lot worse than a delivery app.

Re:America is stuck at home, but food-delivery companies sti... by chrisseaton on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @03:34PM (#23170839)
But where are you getting the food delivered to if you aren't at home?
Re:America is stuck at home, but food-delivery companies sti... by johannes1234321 on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @03:43PM (#23170944)
The hotel or office.
Re:America is stuck at home, but food-delivery companies sti... by chrisseaton on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @05:09PM (#23171853)
I didn't know you could do that. Most hotels I visit have key cards for the elevators. Are you meeting them in the lobby? Isn't that awkward?
Re:America is stuck at home, but food-delivery companies sti... by JMTQp8lwXL on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @05:44PM (#23172182)
If you live in a gated residential complex, how is the food delivery person supposed to meet you? Same issue. In my experience, you meet them in the lobby.

Service delivered directly to your hotel room door is typically offered by the hotel exclusively.

Re:America is stuck at home, but food-delivery companies sti... by bestnameever on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @06:20PM (#23172502)
> If you live in a gated residential complex, how is the food delivery person supposed to meet you? Same issue.

I know some people who just provides the gate code in the delivery instructions that UPS and FedEx uses to open the gate. This is becoming more necessary in my experience because of Amazon using gig workers for delivery.

Hasn't been an issue.

Re:America is stuck at home, but food-delivery companies sti... by chrisseaton on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @06:39PM (#23172669)
I would have thought part of what you pay for with a gated community is someone at the gate to receive your parcels at the gate for you?
Re:America is stuck at home, but food-delivery companies sti... by JMTQp8lwXL on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @08:17PM (#23173519)
That only applies to large, sprawling residential communities that have guards. Smaller-scale multi-family housing buildings (that have say, 20 units) with a locked gate at the entrance won't have the type of service you're describing.
Re:America is stuck at home, but food-delivery companies sti... by johannes1234321 on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @05:45PM (#23172200)
The delivery person goes to the reception and either the call you or send the delivery guy to the room. Also works for packages and other things and hotels are used to this.
Re:America is stuck at home, but food-delivery companies sti... by ghaff on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @05:26PM (#23172019)
Not that I've used them, but I've had hotels offer delivery menus at the desk, especially if their own food options were closed.
Re:America is stuck at home, but food-delivery companies sti... by matz1 on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @05:17PM (#23171933)
Yes. How is it awkward?
Re:America is stuck at home, but food-delivery companies sti... by chrisseaton on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @06:19PM (#23172496)
Are hotels happy with delivery people hanging around their lobbies with smelly hot food? I imagine they'd ask you to not do that and it'd be awkward.
Re:America is stuck at home, but food-delivery companies sti... by root_axis on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @06:51PM (#23172785)
Huh? Ordering food to a hotel is totally normal, the concierge is not offended by "smelly hot food" and certainly I've never heard of a hotel asking guests not to order food.
Re:America is stuck at home, but food-delivery companies sti... by matz1 on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @06:56PM (#23172829)
um yes, guest order delivery food all the time. How is it going to be smelly ? the food is most of the time is inside a container, box or similar.
Re:America is stuck at home, but food-delivery companies sti... by esoterica on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @03:13PM (#23170590)
There are substantial fixed costs around developing an app that are cheaper when amortized over a larger market. It’s more efficient to write one app to be used globally than 100 apps for 100 different cities.

Also people definitely get food delivered while on vacation or traveling for work. Probably even more often than they do at home since they don’t have access to a kitchen to cook in.

Re:America is stuck at home, but food-delivery companies sti... by johannes1234321 on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @03:49PM (#23171005)
Also brand recognition. Over here pizza.de for a long time was the market leader. You can't beat that name and push it with a national merketing campaign. Wehreve in the country, go to pizza.de. (Meanwhile deliveryhero / Lieferheld acquired them using VC money (Rocket Internet and others))
Re:America is stuck at home, but food-delivery companies sti... by chapium on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @03:16PM (#23170629)
I used grubhub pretty exclusively as a consultant who was unfamiliar with my surroundings and too tired/jetlagged after a day of work to find food. The same chain restaurants and hotel food gets old very quickly.
Re:America is stuck at home, but food-delivery companies sti... by SatvikBeri on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @03:22PM (#23170693)
It's very helpful for travel – e.g., I could use Ubereats even while I was in Japan, despite not knowing the language or which apps are good. And I'm much more likely to order delivery while traveling, since I can't cook.

I'm also not really sure what advantages there are to having 100+ local apps as opposed to a few national ones, there genuinely is a lot of infrastructure involved, and it's easier to push back against bad behavior on large companies (e.g. when PostMates was pocketing their drivers' tips.)

Re:America is stuck at home, but food-delivery companies sti... by izolate on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @03:02PM (#23170457)
This is a somewhat myopic take on the subject. As a digital nomad, I like the fact that I can use Uber/Uber Eats in multiple cities/countries.
Re:America is stuck at home, but food-delivery companies sti... by puranjay on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @03:21PM (#23170686)
As a digital nomad, you are in a small minority and there can be experiences created specifically for your needs.
Re:America is stuck at home, but food-delivery companies sti... by philwelch on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @03:30PM (#23170792)
In principle you could make the same argument about lots of businesses. There are reasons Blockbuster, Wal-Mart, Target, Starbucks and the like dominated or destroyed their local competitors. The same would most likely happen to a local food delivery business.
Re:America is stuck at home, but food-delivery companies sti... by fernandotakai on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @04:57PM (#23171745)
>I still don't understand why there is a single global (or rather, country-wide) app for food delivery

uber eats works in a lot of countries. i've ordered food using it on south america, north america and europe all on the same account with the same experience.