Re:Update to L.A.'s stay-at-home orders
by ravenstine on Tuesday May 12, 2020 @07:19PM
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> But we can't. We just can't.
Yes, actually, we can. We can reopen things like this with caution, some new social precautions, protect those who are vulnerable, and calculatingly reevaluate the risk once it turns out that the situation has become more or less safe.
This idea that we "can't" is simply bogus and based on nothing. And the idea that people, who don't put the same weight on the risks the way that you do, are being childish, is asinine. People with your position might sound like they're the adults in the room, but a policy that is more rigorous is not necessarily the better policy.
> And not understanding that, while acting as if your feelings matter more than others' lives makes you sound like a spoiled child.
Clearly, I'm a spoiled little child who doesn't care about the lives of others. /s
How would you like it if we made the stay-at-home orders permanent, decreased the speed limits to 25 MPH, and banned all drugs and alcohol, and put strict limits on added sugar and fat? After all, we could save tens if not hundreds of thousands of lives if we all just sacrificed our productivity and happiness. If we're going to apply your argument towards a single virus, why not go all the way?
Even if you were to say yes, the vast majority of people don't actually want that because this idea that we're all supposed to stay alive is a relatively new idea and, in order to accomplish it, requires a lot of sacrifice. We don't want to live this way forever, even if it makes sense from a utilitarian standpoint. There is nothing wrong with accepting that a percentage of people are always going to die. This is not spoiled or childish.
Yes, actually, we can. We can reopen things like this with caution, some new social precautions, protect those who are vulnerable, and calculatingly reevaluate the risk once it turns out that the situation has become more or less safe.
This idea that we "can't" is simply bogus and based on nothing. And the idea that people, who don't put the same weight on the risks the way that you do, are being childish, is asinine. People with your position might sound like they're the adults in the room, but a policy that is more rigorous is not necessarily the better policy.
> And not understanding that, while acting as if your feelings matter more than others' lives makes you sound like a spoiled child.
Clearly, I'm a spoiled little child who doesn't care about the lives of others. /s
How would you like it if we made the stay-at-home orders permanent, decreased the speed limits to 25 MPH, and banned all drugs and alcohol, and put strict limits on added sugar and fat? After all, we could save tens if not hundreds of thousands of lives if we all just sacrificed our productivity and happiness. If we're going to apply your argument towards a single virus, why not go all the way?
Even if you were to say yes, the vast majority of people don't actually want that because this idea that we're all supposed to stay alive is a relatively new idea and, in order to accomplish it, requires a lot of sacrifice. We don't want to live this way forever, even if it makes sense from a utilitarian standpoint. There is nothing wrong with accepting that a percentage of people are always going to die. This is not spoiled or childish.