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Re:Apple unveils biggest update to Logic since the launch of... by whywhywhywhy on Tuesday May 12, 2020 @01:16PM (#23156576)
>the resource allocated to Logic is so small ( by today's Apple standard ) none of the management bother about it

I'm not really buying that because they've killed plenty of other things which would also be tiny investments in the grand scheme of Apple. Aperture, Shake and Motion come to mind.

Find it very strange they updated it at this point and really starting to wonder if the reason it still exists isn't something as stupid as by having an offering in the pro-audio space it gives executives more excuse to hang around with famous musicians. I mean it's pretty obvious Cook is celebrity obsessed.

Re:Apple unveils biggest update to Logic since the launch of... by thewebcount on Tuesday May 12, 2020 @08:49PM (#23162097)
> Aperture, Shake and Motion come to mind.

Motion has had continuous updates nearly every time FCP has. They updated it a few months ago. [0]

[0] https://www.apple.com/final-cut-pro/motion/

Re:Apple unveils biggest update to Logic since the launch of... by klodolph on Tuesday May 12, 2020 @03:30PM (#23158585)
I don't think any of those pieces of software were in a position like Logic. Audio is a bit of a different beast.

You swap out Final Cut with DaVinci Resolve or Adobe Premiere and you're going to have to relearn workflows and keyboard shortcuts, but it's not going to be radically different. You still start by creating audio and video first, and then cutting it all up and putting it back together in your video editing program.

Same with photo software like Aperture or Lightroom. You go out and create photos first, and then you come back and edit and arrange them. Most of what you do is just going to be the same kind of changes, like cropping, adjusting curves, etc.

Logic is different. You might be using Logic from the very first moment when you're writing a song. You might open Logic first, before you even have an idea for your song. It's like a musical instrument, in the sense that it has unique sounds and textures that you can get used to.

Re:Apple unveils biggest update to Logic since the launch of... by whywhywhywhy on Thursday May 14, 2020 @11:38AM (#23180823)
>It's like a musical instrument, in the sense that it has unique sounds and textures that you can get used to.

All creative software that outputs the level of complexity of a song, video or image is like this. Each has their own algorithms and quirks that end up in the final work in some way. There is nothing uniquely romantic about Logic vs other creative tools.

Plenty of us start the project off right there in the software the project is finished in.

Re:Apple unveils biggest update to Logic since the launch of... by klodolph on Thursday May 14, 2020 @02:00PM (#23183032)
> All creative software that outputs the level of complexity of a song, video or image is like this. Each has their own algorithms and quirks that end up in the final work in some way. There is nothing uniquely romantic about Logic vs other creative tools.

This has nothing to do with algorithms or quirks. This is about different sounds, the different UX for performance, and the different tools for creating sounds. Whether or not you care about this depends on how you use the software, but many people actually do care about this.

You can, of course, use Logic as a simple DAW to record a song that’s already been written. Write your song, come into the studio, fire up Logic and hit record. It’s more or less interchangeable with other respectable DAWs like Reaper when you use it like this. You might notice some differences between the EQ, compressors, reverb, or other plugins. Most people don’t care.

But Logic also comes with a huge library of sounds and presents a particular interface for sound design and performance that isn’t interchangeable with other DAWs. Compare it to something like Ableton or Reason and you’ll get the picture that different people are using their DAWs in radically different ways at the songwriting stage.

> Plenty of us start the project off right there in the software the project is finished in.

Not for Aperture, Final Cut, Shake, or Motion. At least, not in general. Those are the pieces of software I’m talking obut.

Re:Apple unveils biggest update to Logic since the launch of... by dahauns on Tuesday May 12, 2020 @04:58PM (#23159717)
Hm...I wonder whether this could also be an effect of a special case of company culture legacy - with the eMagic-based Logic/Core Audio team very much retained as a unit in Rellingen, Germany and co-founder Lengerling being Sr. Director in Cupertino.