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Re:Elon Musk reopening Tesla factory despite Alameda County ... by kyuudou on Tuesday May 12, 2020 @10:31AM (#23154379)
This is municipal code, not criminal law. Very important distinction. Like with a traffic ticket, they can fine for not complying. They cannot arrest you, however.

Where they "get" you is if you blow off the court about resolving the fine which is contempt of court, which is a criminal offense.

It blows my mind how supposedly smart people know so little about the law. It's a lot like programming. The keywords are important and the logic used as well.

Re:Elon Musk reopening Tesla factory despite Alameda County ... by clouddrover on Tuesday May 12, 2020 @11:01AM (#23154722)
> This is municipal code, not criminal law.

These businesses are facing criminal charges in Los Angeles for violating the Los Angeles county public health order:

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-04-03/coronavi...

Re:Elon Musk reopening Tesla factory despite Alameda County ... by kyuudou on Tuesday May 12, 2020 @01:47PM (#23157109)
I guess we'll find out what the judges the locals voted for and the juries summoned are made of. Even then, their decisions can be overturned by a higher court or appealed so that basically means nothing. They can say "criminal municipal code violation" and a good judge should say, no, that's not how this works. I guess it is LA, though...
Re:Elon Musk reopening Tesla factory despite Alameda County ... by masonic on Tuesday May 12, 2020 @03:12PM (#23158356)
In CA, municipal code encompasses both criminal and civil statutes.

That link is paywalled, but the article title only refers to shutting off utilities.

Re:Elon Musk reopening Tesla factory despite Alameda County ... by clouddrover on Tuesday May 12, 2020 @07:15PM (#23161275)
> the article title only refers to shutting off utilities.

It does not.

Re:Elon Musk reopening Tesla factory despite Alameda County ... by dragonwriter on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @07:48AM (#23165865)
> This is municipal code, not criminal law

No, the code cited in the order is State (not municipal or county) code giving certain authority to county public health officers, neither municipal codes nor municipal officers are involved. Also, municipal codes in California can have criminal components, so the contrast drawn is false as well as not germane to the relevant facts.

> Like with a traffic ticket, they can fine for not complying. They cannot arrest you, however.

Being stopped and issued a traffic ticket is a non-custodial arrest and the “fine” people pay if they don't dispute tickets is legally forfeiture of bail. But, in any case, unlike minor traffic offenses, violating a county public health order issued to control communicable disease is a criminal offense punishable by fines, jail, or both; the Alameda County order cites the relevant state criminal law.

> It blows my mind how supposedly smart people know so little about the law.

Indeed.