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Re:Elon Musk reopening Tesla factory despite Alameda County ... by dannyw on Monday May 11, 2020 @07:01PM (#23148264)
Likely no one will die, given:

* the mandated, Tesla-supplied masks and face shields;

* the 6 ft of social distance mandated across the entire process;

* the fact that it is opening at 30-40% capacity;

* the age of the factory workers, and the flu-like levels of CFR for young to medium aged workers

The virus is going to be here with us for a long time. A vaccine isn't happening this year barring a divine-like miracle; it may not even happen next year or even ever. Coronavirus vaccines are very new for us.

We cannot put the whole society, and the whole economy, on lockdown for 3 years. We need to reopen following all the safety protocols, but we need to reopen.

If someone dies despite all the safety protocols taking place, then, well, it sucks. But the virus is here already.

Re:Elon Musk reopening Tesla factory despite Alameda County ... by Traster on Monday May 11, 2020 @07:37PM (#23148701)
>* the age of the factory workers, and the flu-like levels of CFR for young to medium aged workers

Factory worker catches Coronavirus, shows no symptoms, passes it to their family, their elderly parent dies. Given that these factories employ thousands of people, it's actually not improbably that someone directly related to a Tesla employee dies of coronavirus after this re-opening. Whether it's due to the factory re-opening we'll never know, but I'm sure some lawyers can make a damn good stab at finding out.

Re:Elon Musk reopening Tesla factory despite Alameda County ... by FireBeyond on Monday May 11, 2020 @07:14PM (#23148429)
> * the mandated, Tesla-supplied masks and face shields

Nope. "You are welcome to bring your own PPE. If Tesla has supplied you with some, you are required to wear it".

is quite different from "Tesla has supplied and required employees to wear PPE".

Re:Elon Musk reopening Tesla factory despite Alameda County ... by dannyw on Monday May 11, 2020 @07:28PM (#23148600)
Re:Elon Musk reopening Tesla factory despite Alameda County ... by prostanac on Monday May 11, 2020 @08:37PM (#23149261)
Your article is from march. [0] is the source for this quote, from page 7.

[0] https://www.tesla.com/sites/default/files/blog_attachments/T...

Re:Elon Musk reopening Tesla factory despite Alameda County ... by mrfusion on Monday May 11, 2020 @07:25PM (#23148555)
So logical. I can’t believe this is being downvoted.
Re:Elon Musk reopening Tesla factory despite Alameda County ... by MiroF on Monday May 11, 2020 @07:06PM (#23148319)
We need to get testing and contact tracing down before we re-open. You're right that we cannot wait for a vaccine.
Re:Elon Musk reopening Tesla factory despite Alameda County ... by holler on Monday May 11, 2020 @07:10PM (#23148356)
I'm really still not sold on contact-tracing at all. What good does it do for me to find out that 10 people I crossed paths with today had covid? If a sizable number of people end up getting it etc, these apps are only going to serve to freak people out with anxiety and no one will use them.

Id rather just assume I'm coming into contact with it when I leave my house, and then take necessary precautions.

Re:Elon Musk reopening Tesla factory despite Alameda County ... by MiroF on Monday May 11, 2020 @07:23PM (#23148536)
> these apps are only going to serve to freak people out with anxiety and no one will use them.

Not sure that it should necessarily be done by apps. But if you can find someone who has covid, identify their close contacts, and have them tested - then you can still catch a significant number of cases and put a dent in the disease's spread. These are things that mitigate the spread and have a substantial impact at the margin.

I'd spend some time reading what the pros, like Trevor Bedford, are suggesting as a path forward, rather than just the headlines about Apple's new contact tracing app. Also, worth noting that other countries have successfully suppressed the virus.