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Re:Age Reduction Breakthrough? by strofcon on Monday May 11, 2020 @12:05PM (#23143569)
It's a pretty mentally unhealthy way to live, mostly.
Re:Age Reduction Breakthrough? by dwaltrip on Monday May 11, 2020 @12:22PM (#23143796)
There are some animals that don't "age" like we do. These animals can live indefinitely, until they are eaten or die in some accidental way.

Aging is a set of complex bio-physical-chemical processes. We have actually made a lot of progress in recent decades understanding how this happens. There is no fundamental reason we won't be able to better understand these processes and then mitigate them heavily, if not entirely.

Aubrey de Grey is one of the scientists leading these efforts and his work, along with others, is very interesting. It seems to me there is real potential here. There are many difficult hurdles, but I find it plausible we might overcome them to an extent where it is possible to significantly extend the human lifespan.

If course, if this actually happens, there will be massive social, political, and economic consequences. I'm not exactly sure how that would play out. I'm a bit of an optimist, so I imagine there would be some sort of new non-dystopic paradigm that arises.

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Re:Age Reduction Breakthrough? by dwaltrip on Monday May 11, 2020 @01:57PM (#23144970)
Guillotines would still work, so there's that. But it's true, there is definitely potential for it to go badly.
Re:Age Reduction Breakthrough? by dependenttypes on Monday May 11, 2020 @09:27PM (#23149585)
Let's not bring race into this. It would be extremely easy to claim that for a lot of other races as well depending on how racist I wanted to sound.

Anyway, once they die their children will take over, as it is usual, so nothing will change if they were to just live forever.

Re:Age Reduction Breakthrough? by twojacobtwo on Monday May 11, 2020 @12:25PM (#23143836)
Isn't that the way that every single organism ever has lived?
Re:Age Reduction Breakthrough? by RunawayGalaxy on Monday May 11, 2020 @12:11PM (#23143651)
Even if it's possible?
Re:Age Reduction Breakthrough? by strofcon on Monday May 11, 2020 @12:18PM (#23143752)
I mean, "won't die of old age quite as soon" doesn't equate to "immortal", yea?

To be fair though, my comment was way too broad. I should have clarified that I mean a constant, overbearing dread of the prospect of death is super unhealthy. Make life suck, and effectively shortens it in the experience of the scared one. (source: did that for a long time, got healthy, stopped being scared. Sample size of 1. :-D )

Re:Age Reduction Breakthrough? by himinlomax on Monday May 11, 2020 @12:54PM (#23144249)
Assuming it is, is it anywhere near the most unhealthy way to live?
Re:Age Reduction Breakthrough? by modzu on Monday May 11, 2020 @12:11PM (#23143657)
said with the entire world cooped up scared in their homes...
Re:Age Reduction Breakthrough? by strofcon on Monday May 11, 2020 @12:17PM (#23143726)
Yup, current situation sucks massively. Doesn't change the fact that a disproportionate fear of death is exceedingly unhealthy and robs folks of some of the joy of being alive.
Re:Age Reduction Breakthrough? by aea12 on Monday May 11, 2020 @12:35PM (#23143972)
Except nobody said, or even suggested, a fear of dying. Only you did. There's a significant difference between wanting more time to do things and sitting around terrified, and conflating the two is problematic.

Reading your siblings, you're projecting your own feelings onto a completely reasonable feeling that most people have: with another hundred years of experience, what's possible?

Re:Age Reduction Breakthrough? by strofcon on Wednesday May 13, 2020 @12:06PM (#23168324)
Fair enough, I read fear into the parent comment, my apologies.

As for projection, not so much - I've not really had any significant fear of death, aside from instinct to avoid certain demise. :-)

Instead it's more that I've only ever seen "I'm at peace with the idea of dying" and "desperately clinging to anything that can prolong my life, even if only by a little." Admittedly, that's my anecdotal experience of the people with whom I interact, and I did indeed present a false dichotomy. :-\ Again, my apologies there.

In the proper logical sense, "not wanting to die" is only technically negated as "wanting to die". Quite literally the definition of negation - introducing a "not" in front of whatever the thing is. So that's my oops.

It's a weird place though, because the negation of "at peace with the idea of dying one day" is "NOT at peace" with the same. Which implies fear. Which... I dunno, I've reached my limit now. :-)

Death is a weird concept to consider in a neutral / rational manner, eh?