News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Scunthorpe Sans – a self-censoring font by sbarre on Sunday May 10, 2020 @10:59AM (#23133111)
I've heard this argument before (and I tend to agree with it), but here's a counter-point I heard recently and appreciated:

Eloquence and good vocabulary are important, but there is a time and place for something vulgar and basic.

Just like there's a time and place for a rapier and there's also a time and place for a folding chair or a pool cue.

Re:Scunthorpe Sans – a self-censoring font by nogabebop23 on Sunday May 10, 2020 @11:24AM (#23133335)
This. People who swear do it so frequently it looses the power. It shows a lack of vocabulary more than any sort of moral failing. If you only swear rarely you get a lot more impact when you do, vs. the person who cannot avoid every 3rd word being a blue one.

Also, there are some truly eloquent swears out there!

Re:Scunthorpe Sans – a self-censoring font by umvi on Sunday May 10, 2020 @03:29PM (#23135373)
Words are vulgar because they are overused.

It's the original definition of "vulgar" - "characteristic of or belonging to the masses." Hence, it became taboo for the upper classes to utter vulgarities, because it signaled lack of learning.

Re:Scunthorpe Sans – a self-censoring font by GuB-42 on Sunday May 10, 2020 @03:29PM (#23135369)
Re:Scunthorpe Sans – a self-censoring font by Cthulhu_ on Monday May 11, 2020 @04:14AM (#23139933)
Yup, some people swear so much it becomes a stop- or filler word, padding out a sentence unnecessarily.

I mean you could insert a variation of "fuck" half a dozen times in the above sentence and it would add nothing of value to it.

Re:Scunthorpe Sans – a self-censoring font by mtrower on Monday May 11, 2020 @03:01PM (#23145684)
Emphasis.

Am I suggesting you should do this with all your sentences? Absolutely not. However, I would certainly not read the two sentences the same.

(Food for thought: spices do not generally add nutritional value to food. Yet, each has their own preference as to whether, and how heavily their food should be spiced.)

Re:Scunthorpe Sans – a self-censoring font by mtrower on Monday May 11, 2020 @03:07PM (#23145743)
> It shows a lack of vocabulary more than any sort of moral failing.

Here, now, I call nonsense on that one. I (probably?) swear more than most of my friends in private, casual communication circles. I also have a much greater vocabulary than any of them (this is not hubris --- I'm frequently told to explain words I use; I chalk this up to being better-read throughout my life). It just doesn't follow that because a person favors certain words, that they must not understand or feel comfortable with others.

Re:Scunthorpe Sans – a self-censoring font by jrumbut on Sunday May 10, 2020 @12:23PM (#23133811)
I don't think vulgar goes along with basic, the four letter, Germanic versions of fornicate and defecate have a whole range of varied, nuanced, often contradictory meanings that capture the irreducible complexity of lived experience.

The Latin derived versions just make everything so bloodless, so focused on one particular aspect of the concept. They really are the simple words, even if they have more letters.

Re:Scunthorpe Sans – a self-censoring font by User23 on Sunday May 10, 2020 @01:45PM (#23134473)
What many people consider the strongest English vulgarity is derived from the Latin cunnus.
Re:Scunthorpe Sans – a self-censoring font by dghughes on Sunday May 10, 2020 @10:18PM (#23138270)
I'm amazed at British TV shows even whimsical gameshows where everyone swears like a sailor. But when someone dares to say the "c word" it's bleeped and everyone gasps.
Re:Scunthorpe Sans – a self-censoring font by Chris2048 on Monday May 11, 2020 @06:55AM (#23140790)
I recall that the c-word used to be common too, then the idea that it was "the female n-word" was imported from the US.
Re:Scunthorpe Sans – a self-censoring font by IgorPartola on Monday May 11, 2020 @08:34AM (#23141385)
As someone who has an Australian friend, the avoidance of that word is definitely not universal.
Re:Scunthorpe Sans – a self-censoring font by mirimir on Sunday May 10, 2020 @07:20PM (#23137231)
But not so much in the UK, right?
Re:Scunthorpe Sans – a self-censoring font by jrumbut on Sunday May 10, 2020 @03:50PM (#23135535)
That's a good point!
Re:Scunthorpe Sans – a self-censoring font by sbarre on Sunday May 10, 2020 @12:46PM (#23134022)
I meant basic in the lowbrow/highbrow sense, not with regards to complexity, but I understand your point.