Fixing Ellis Island's borders in the face of incorrect government data

Re:Fixing Ellis Island's borders in the face of incorrect go... by supernova87a on Saturday May 09, 2020 @03:13PM (#23127523)

I'll just mention a side story for people's interest. You may notice that Ellis Island is connected to New Jersey by a small bridge, in the maps and satellite view.

That bridge is a service bridge, but it isn't implausible that it could be adapted for use by pedestrians to visit Ellis Island. It might involve a few $m and an environmental review, but it has been considered before.

However, despite periodic questioning and advocacy for it to be allowed for pedestrians (to decrease the cost of people visiting, and make the island more accessible), the NPS has stated that "an approach by boat is important to the experience". A $19.25 ticket, run by a private ferry company.

Go figure.

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Re:Fixing Ellis Island's borders in the face of incorrect go... by pbhjpbhj on Saturday May 09, 2020 @03:36PM (#23127677)

First question: who runs the local National Parks Service (NPS), and who runs the the ferry company, and what's their [financial] link.

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Re:Fixing Ellis Island's borders in the face of incorrect go... by exegete on Saturday May 09, 2020 @04:18PM (#23127966)

The ferry companies and NYC lobbied to make access by ferry only. There are two locations to board the ferry. One in Jersey and one in NYC. Ferry companies obviously didn’t want to lose revenue and NYC didn’t want people to go to Jersey.

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Re:Fixing Ellis Island's borders in the face of incorrect go... by JumpCrisscross on Saturday May 09, 2020 @05:39PM (#23128517)

The ownership of Ellis and Liberty Islands, between New York, New Jersey and the federal government, has been the subject of multiple skirmishes, treaties and Supreme Court cases.

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Re:Fixing Ellis Island's borders in the face of incorrect go... by AlexTrask on Sunday May 10, 2020 @06:08AM (#23131510)

On osm you can mark the kind of acces so you can indicate that is a service acces

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