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Re:World's Largest Producer of Rubbing Alcohol Can't Manufac... by Scoundreller on Saturday May 09, 2020 @11:40AM (#23125624)
> The Food and Drug Administration and Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives have prohibited the use of ethanol in place of isopropyl alcohol even though both are equally effective as germ-killers.

Huh? I thought most of it was made with ethanol?

Just checked a USA Target, and Purell is 70% ethyl alcohol.

The problem with using IPA is that you can easily die if you drink it.

Re:World's Largest Producer of Rubbing Alcohol Can't Manufac... by tyingq on Saturday May 09, 2020 @12:23PM (#23126050)
It's awkwardly worded...I had to re-read the article a few times. They prohibited the use of "fuel grade ethanol" that hasn't yet met the higher standards of ethanol meant for hand sanitizer. And they are making exceptions on a case-by-case basis where the manufacturer can show they meet those higher standards.
Re:World's Largest Producer of Rubbing Alcohol Can't Manufac... by refurb on Saturday May 09, 2020 @12:47PM (#23126233)
The problem with using IPA is that you can easily die if you drink it.

Random fact - IPA is not that toxic. If you drink it, your body will happily oxidize it to acetone. Acetone is not that toxic since your body produces it when burning fat. Estimated fatal dose of IPA is 500mL.

Re:World's Largest Producer of Rubbing Alcohol Can't Manufac... by js2 on Saturday May 09, 2020 @02:02PM (#23126939)
TIL. However, the CDC quotes a source saying it’s about half that:

> Human data: Ten volunteers exposed for 3 to 5 minutes to 200, 400, or 800 ppm reported mild to moderate irritation of the eyes, nose, and throat at the two higher concentrations [Nelson et al. 1943]. The probable lethal oral dose has been reported to be 190 grams [Gosselin et al. 1984].

https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/idlh/67630.html

IPA has a density of 0.786 g/cm3 (20 °C) (per Wikipedia), so that’s 190/0.786 = 242 ml (about 8 oz).

Re:World's Largest Producer of Rubbing Alcohol Can't Manufac... by techdragon on Saturday May 09, 2020 @09:07PM (#23129520)
LD50 and estimation of fatal doses can be tricky. Opting for “overly conservative” is hardly inappropriate either. So I wouldn’t be surprised if both of these numbers were correct for different testing criteria.
Re:World's Largest Producer of Rubbing Alcohol Can't Manufac... by Scoundreller on Saturday May 09, 2020 @02:09PM (#23127027)
Should’ve said “more easily die”. It’s definitely no methanol though.
Re:World's Largest Producer of Rubbing Alcohol Can't Manufac... by justinator on Saturday May 09, 2020 @12:06PM (#23125905)
Huh, interesting. Lot of distillers for booze 'round here have turned, at least in part, to producing hand sanitizer
Re:World's Largest Producer of Rubbing Alcohol Can't Manufac... by shagie on Saturday May 09, 2020 @01:22PM (#23126570)
When this is all said and done... I'd really like to get a bottle of two of antiseptic topical solutions. https://newschannel9.com/news/local/chattanooga-whiskey-part... -- there's just something about the bottle as a memento.

https://www.distilledspirits.org/distillers-responding-to-co... for the list of all of them.

Re:World's Largest Producer of Rubbing Alcohol Can't Manufac... by tssva on Sunday May 10, 2020 @08:52AM (#23132231)
Many of the distilleries which were making hand sanitizer have stopped and this list doesn't appear to reflect this. I know that at least 2 of the distilleries listed in my state stopped producing hand sanitizer a couple of weeks ago and no longer have any in stock.

Distilleries in general are not setup to produce the purity of alcohol needed for hand sanitizer. What distilleries do have is licenses to purchase large quantities of alcohol. Most distilleries were purchasing the required alcohol from other sources, producing hand sanitizer in their facility and bottling it.

The supply of the required alcohol has either dried up or prices have gotten to levels making uneconomical for them to continue producing hand sanitizer.

Re:World's Largest Producer of Rubbing Alcohol Can't Manufac... by kube-system on Saturday May 09, 2020 @12:19PM (#23126008)
I just searched "sds hand sanitizer" to get some random data sheets. All of the first ten I looked at were mostly ethanol. Two of them also included ~5% isopropyl.

I think the author here might be confusing different quality grades of alcohol with different chemical types of alcohol.