Re:Results of Findland's basic income experiment
by oneplane on Saturday May 09, 2020 @11:35AM
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That's a rather pessimistic and evil stance to assume other people to have. At the same time: if that was someones incentive, wouldn't that also cause happiness or well-being to increase anyway?
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Re:Results of Findland's basic income experiment
by xondono on Saturday May 09, 2020 @01:18PM
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My point is that reported data is generally very unreliable, since there’s all kind of incentives that bias the results.
As for that generating happiness, think of drugs for instance, that you personally want them doesn’t mean they’re good to you.
Re:Results of Findland's basic income experiment
by acarrera94 on Saturday May 09, 2020 @05:59PM
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What makes it evil? That word is thrown around too easily. If there is an incentive, it has to be considered as a possible explanation
Re:Results of Findland's basic income experiment
by oneplane on Sunday May 10, 2020 @10:51AM
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It is evil to assume everyone else is evil and the only difference between people is those who have been caught doing evil things and those who are hiding it well. It assumes there are no well-intentioned people or people who wouldn't feel the need to lie.
Re:Results of Findland's basic income experiment
by xondono on Sunday May 10, 2020 @02:49PM
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Why would you assume that I’m assuming everyone is evil?
I’m just assuming that people generally follow incentives and thus averages will reflect them. If you need any evidence for “People follow incentives”, we have full branches of studies built on that premise.
My guess would be that you’re assuming I think people would lie, and you find lying reprehensible (I don’t).
In any case, IMO the biggest problems here are that apples to apples comparisons are very hard to make, and long term effects are essentially unknowable.