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Re:Rebuilding our tech stack for the new facebook.com by ianmobbs on Friday May 08, 2020 @04:42PM (#23119223)
I think the biggest assumption you're making here is that most people care about ads - and they don't. Fundamentally, when I'm scrolling through Facebook or Instagram or Reddit or whatever, I just don't care that I see ads while I'm scrolling. I'm not going to pay $1/2/3/4/5 a month to avoid something I don't care about, and that's really only the value add of a subscription-based service. I'd also say most folks don't find Facebook's data policies as egregious as the tech community does.
Re:Rebuilding our tech stack for the new facebook.com by freediver on Friday May 08, 2020 @04:59PM (#23119390)
I'd really like to understand how does one not care about ads. To me it's like potholes on road. It would require terrific willpower to ignore them.
Re:Rebuilding our tech stack for the new facebook.com by BurningFrog on Friday May 08, 2020 @05:25PM (#23119652)
I'm not interested in the ads, so I don't notice them if they're not shoved in front of what I am interested in.

I can see that if you consider ads to be inherently offensive, you would notice them wherever they appear, and be annoyed.

But that's not where most people are.

Re:Rebuilding our tech stack for the new facebook.com by cameronbrown on Friday May 08, 2020 @06:04PM (#23120056)
People do. My dad doesn't install an adblocker because he simply doesn't care. I wouldn't either if it wasn't for the serious performance impact.
Re:Rebuilding our tech stack for the new facebook.com by TwelveNights on Friday May 08, 2020 @05:21PM (#23119617)
Although it's getting harder and harder since many platforms try to blend their ads in with the actual site content, I can avoid them reliably well by checking metadata such as the poster, some indication that it's an ad, or if the content is clearly different from what I was expecting.

I wouldn't say it's as bad as potholes on the road, since ads are more predictable.

Re:Rebuilding our tech stack for the new facebook.com by jawns on Friday May 08, 2020 @08:28PM (#23121031)
I don't think it's just about the ads themselves. It's about the fact that when a site is free, its users become the product, and there are all sorts of user-hostile design decisions made, which leads to all sorts of unnecessary bloat.

Think of it as the difference between a for-profit bank and a credit union. The bank exists to maximize returns for its shareholders. The credit union exists solely for benefit of its members. So the credit union isn't going to try to employ sneaky fine-print fees, because that's not what the members want.

In a similar vein, you might not care about ads and may have trained yourself to ignore them, but you might care about performance, which is sluggish because of all the cruft, or you might care about privacy, or you might care about being marketed to in more subtle ways than display ads.

Re:Rebuilding our tech stack for the new facebook.com by Dotnaught on Friday May 08, 2020 @05:28PM (#23119687)
Being unwilling to pay for the service suggests to me that the entire experience has no meaningful value.
Re:Rebuilding our tech stack for the new facebook.com by smadge on Friday May 08, 2020 @05:58PM (#23119997)
Economists have done studies where they tried to determine how much someone would need to be paid to stop using Facebook for a year. Maybe people are not willing to pay for the service, but they would rather have the service than $X.