And, if you use Linux, ThinkPads have a good track record at compatibility.

They even have a page with "certified supported" versions: https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/solutions/pd031426

Recently, they've even partnered with Red Hat to ship Fedora on some laptops by default: https://fedoramagazine.org/coming-soon-fedora-on-lenovo-lapt...

I'm switching back to a macbook now, but I used to run a T480s with the WQHD screen and it worked really well. Good battery life, nice HIDPI screen, super durable. I brought it with me when I traveled and everything, never had any issues besides scratching the outside surface.

Why are you switching back to a macbook?

> unless your work requires you to use macOS, you have no reason to buy a Macbook

If hardware is all that matters to you, sure. But some people actually prefer the software experience of macOS to that of Windows, for a variety of reasons.

I'm running Linux on my X1, works like a charm (and I find myself using my Macbook Pro less and less)

i'm running Ubuntu 20.04 on my Thinkpad P2 Gen 2 laptop, using the Budgie Desktop. I'd guess my entire workflow is 95% the same coming from my MBP.

There is still the issue of software. Lots of programs that professionals use on a daily basis don't run on Linux and don't have good alternatives that do. Plus, macOS is much better designed and integrated (if that means anything to you), and generally more stable[0].

[0]: This seems to be less true every year, both because desktop Linux is becoming more stable over time, and because macOS seems to get buggier with every release. Still, as someone that uses both operating systems on a regular basis, my MacBook Pro is still marginally more stable than my Linux desktop machine on average.

> and generally more stable

People say this yet still use Adobe software on macOS over windows. Despite the fact adobe software runs horribly on macOS compared to windows.

If you buy a Mac for using adobe software you’re definitely not buying it for workflow.

First, I was talking about software that doesn't run on Linux but does run macOS, for the case where you don't want to use Windows but still need certain programs. For those users, the Windows "workflow" is already a deal-breaker, as is the lack of professional software on Linux, so macOS is the only choice.[0] I also didn't call out any specific software because there is lots of it besides the Adobe suite.

Second, can you elaborate? What makes Adobe run "horribly" on macOS? I admit I haven't used an Adobe product in years, but I used to do some design as part of my job, and I can't say it worked any worse on my Mac than it did on my Windows machine.

[0]: I recognize that this isn't necessarily a huge segment of users, but I for one would be hard-pressed to go back to Windows, even if it saved me a thousand bucks on a laptop.

The only software I could complain about on macOS is adobe software. I can't think of any software that gives a bad experience other than that...

If you deal with large photoshop files, and you only have say 8gb of memory. Windows will just get really slow when you move around the document.

On macOS it will crash randomly, and often. Premier you can be scrubbing the timeline, scrub too much, boom premier just stops working.

Lightroom (this is what I mostly used for editing photography) it generates a history of applying changes and removing them, if you begin toggling boom crash.

This is just personal experience, but I know alot of people who do graphic design and they now just have this natural reflex to constantly save their work allllll the time in fear of the software crashing.

Yet on Windows I don't recall any of that software ever crashing...

https://community.adobe.com/t5/photoshop/photoshop-cc-2020-c...

There's many more threads on about the software crashing on macOS than Windows.

In any case I'll probably never buy another macbook again. Lenovo + Ubuntu for me now. :)

You can get Linux on those devices too

That's true, and it's really wonderful that you have that option, but it doesn't help if you prefer the software experience of macOS and/or need software that doesn't run on Linux.

I just have to say sometimes you can have it all http://x220.mcdonnelltech.com/

Or, perhaps not http://x220.mcdonnelltech.com/mojave/

High Sierra (10.13) will continue to receive security updates until nearly the end of this year.

would also like to just leave this here:

https://www.photopea.com/

Please pick that up and deposit it properly in the garbage bin.

Typing this from FreeBSD on mine.

I used to run OpenBSD on a laptop (not this one) and that was great too.

The touchpad, speakers and display are significantly better on the MacBook. Also, Apple sell their hardware products at a single, clearly advertized price point. I hate how Lenovo make you fuss around with discount codes to get a fair price.

Lenovo is mainly a B2B company: their target customers are big corporations, they don't really do a good job when it comes to direct-to-consumers services.

Display always had been the Achilles’ heel on ThinkPad but anyone who use trackpad and speaker heavily on a ThinkPad is a peasant.

My sanity requires it.