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Re:New Lenovo ThinkPad Range with Ryzen 4000 and 4000 Pro Mo... by maxmouchet on Thursday May 07, 2020 @02:28PM (#23106374)
I'm hesitating between an XPS and an X1. What do you find better on the X1?
Re:New Lenovo ThinkPad Range with Ryzen 4000 and 4000 Pro Mo... by koverda on Thursday May 07, 2020 @03:51PM (#23107402)
the XPS I had felt like a laptop from the past, the X1 feels like a laptop from the future.

The XPS's keyboard would multi press, the touchpad didn't work great, the hinge made it difficult top open the screen, the speakers kinda sucked. Don't get me wrong, it was a nice laptop, but felt very over hyped. A death by a thousand cuts. I felt a bit let down from what I expected after reading a bunch of reviews.

On the other hand, when I finally got the the X1C, I couldn't believe that there was so little hype about this laptop. All I would ever see online is stuff about macbooks and the XPS line, nothing about the X1C.

The X1 is such a solid machine. The interface is completely uncompromised, yet it is so light, it feels like I've just got a spiral bound notebook in my bag when I'm carrying it around. Feels like a leap ahead, rather than two steps forward, one step back.

Re:New Lenovo ThinkPad Range with Ryzen 4000 and 4000 Pro Mo... by noisy_boy on Thursday May 07, 2020 @03:12PM (#23106972)
No op but for me the clincher was vastly superior keyboard and the expansion capability with dual ssd/dual ram slots that made me go for X1 Extreme Gen 2. I have used Dell in the past and after using this Thinkpad, I have to admit that I find the latter to be of better quality overall.
Re:New Lenovo ThinkPad Range with Ryzen 4000 and 4000 Pro Mo... by tchaffee on Thursday May 07, 2020 @07:08PM (#23109435)
Long time XPS customer. My last one had the very famous battery swelling in just a few months and Dell refused to replace the battery. On previous models for other customers they replaced it for free for what it is: a manufacturing defect. The keyboard and touchpad are also finicky, but that's not a deal breaker for me because I'm mostly on external.

My next laptop will be a Lenovo.

Re:New Lenovo ThinkPad Range with Ryzen 4000 and 4000 Pro Mo... by philliphaydon on Thursday May 07, 2020 @08:25PM (#23109982)
I have both. X1 keyboard hands down any day... ANY DAY. I love the keyboard so much I’ll now never buy any other laptop brand.

I also like the look and feel more and it’s always easier to upgrade Lenovo.

Re:New Lenovo ThinkPad Range with Ryzen 4000 and 4000 Pro Mo... by cercatrova on Thursday May 07, 2020 @07:24PM (#23109576)
For what it's worth, apparently a new XPS 15 and XPS 17 are being announced this month or next, with basically no bezels, and hopefully Ryzen 4000.
Re:New Lenovo ThinkPad Range with Ryzen 4000 and 4000 Pro Mo... by combixtreen on Thursday May 07, 2020 @02:45PM (#23106608)
X1 hands down. I sold my XPS13 and never looked back.
Re:New Lenovo ThinkPad Range with Ryzen 4000 and 4000 Pro Mo... by rozab on Thursday May 07, 2020 @02:55PM (#23106755)
This sort of comment is all over this thread, and it really doesn't help me make a decision
Re:New Lenovo ThinkPad Range with Ryzen 4000 and 4000 Pro Mo... by pimeys on Thursday May 07, 2020 @03:40PM (#23107287)
All X1 Carbons I've owned and the one my partner owns have been so nice to use. I mean you just need to get one into your hands... The rubbery cover, very sturdy design, super lightweight, perfect keyboard, in the later models perfect screens too (2k Adobe RGB 100% and HDR just nails it).

And you can throw it everywhere, just travel with it and use everywhere due to it being so small and nice. And you can damage it and probably the floor tiles break before the laptop gets any real hit.

Edit: oh and Linux just works so great in any of those business ThinkPads. Any linux. I'll go with Arch typically, but even more exotic operating systems, such as OpenBSD just work with it (running it in one of my ThinkPads for some years, and the experience is great).

Re:New Lenovo ThinkPad Range with Ryzen 4000 and 4000 Pro Mo... by sp332 on Thursday May 07, 2020 @03:08PM (#23106933)
You didn't answer the question at all.
Re:New Lenovo ThinkPad Range with Ryzen 4000 and 4000 Pro Mo... by modzu on Thursday May 07, 2020 @03:52PM (#23107418)
i sold my xps because the trackpad was glitchy. go to dell and count the number of driver revisions. its like a perpetual beta product. the nosecam lol. the bezels on xps are purdy tho.
Re:New Lenovo ThinkPad Range with Ryzen 4000 and 4000 Pro Mo... by JadeNB on Thursday May 07, 2020 @06:03PM (#23108893)
Didn't Dell finally fix the nosecam?
Re:New Lenovo ThinkPad Range with Ryzen 4000 and 4000 Pro Mo... by modzu on Thursday May 07, 2020 @07:21PM (#23109549)
they did! but not before i returned mine. the worst part was that your hands blocked the lens if they were on the keyboard... such egregious design(s) flipped me away from dell laptops