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Re:Debt Collectors Are Transforming the Business of State Co... by JoeAltmaier on Thursday May 07, 2020 @12:51PM (#23105131)
And it only gets to court after harassment hasn't worked. Anecdata: guy I know had a common name. Debt collector fastened on him because he'd lived in the same town as a deadbeat with that name too. Guy would call day and night demanding payment.
Re:Debt Collectors Are Transforming the Business of State Co... by Spooky23 on Thursday May 07, 2020 @10:24PM (#23110753)
We were on the receiving end of that when the debtor in question registered our phone number when she signed up for a CVS card. It took awhile to figure it out, but every time we picked up something there, we would get increasingly crazy calls from debt collectors and insurance subrogation people.

It got worse over time as the collection agencies sell bad debts at a discount, and the bottom feeders when the debt is close to aging out are awful.

Re:Debt Collectors Are Transforming the Business of State Co... by elliekelly on Thursday May 07, 2020 @10:16PM (#23110710)
Is it necessary to call someone with debt a “deadbeat”? Often the people who are being hounded by debt collectors are victims of predatory lending and a system designed to punish them with fees for being poor.
Re:Debt Collectors Are Transforming the Business of State Co... by dlhavema on Friday May 08, 2020 @12:32AM (#23111410)
The name/title doesn't always apply, true. But sometimes it really does.

Most blanket statements have flaws in them...

Re:Debt Collectors Are Transforming the Business of State Co... by oh_sigh on Thursday May 07, 2020 @02:07PM (#23106094)
At least in America, you can demand that all correspondence goes through certified mail, with big fines if they don't.
Re:Debt Collectors Are Transforming the Business of State Co... by pmiller2 on Thursday May 07, 2020 @02:27PM (#23106359)
Not precisely "certified mail," but just "mail." They can choose to use certified mail if they want, but it's not required. You should always use certified mail to communicate with a debt collector, no matter if the debt is legitimate or not.
Re:Debt Collectors Are Transforming the Business of State Co... by briffle on Thursday May 07, 2020 @02:41PM (#23106550)
I have done that twice for family members, along with asking for proof of the debt, and that they are authorized to collect it. Both times, never, ever heard from the collector again.
Re:Debt Collectors Are Transforming the Business of State Co... by milesvp on Thursday May 07, 2020 @05:59PM (#23108857)
My understanding with debt collectors, is that they usually purchase a spreadsheet with very limited data, and there is almost never a paper trail for said debt. Which also means debt has a habit of showing up on multiple spreadsheets that keep getting resold. I think planet money did a podcast on this topic.

Patio11 also wrote about talking to debt collectors with regards to identity theft. https://www.kalzumeus.com/2017/09/09/identity-theft-credit-r...

Re:Debt Collectors Are Transforming the Business of State Co... by rmilk on Thursday May 07, 2020 @11:27PM (#23111123)
This seems to the the correct understanding. See these two articles that give the view from people who tracked down the debt collections and the bad data in those spreadsheets.

Bloomberg: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2017-12-06/millions-...

NYT: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/08/15/magazine/bad-...