Why Does Google Hate SIP?

Re:Why Does Google Hate SIP? by Kylekramer on Thursday March 10, 2011 @12:02PM (#2309806)

I don't know if turning off access to a clearly in-progress and not meant for public use SIP project that somehow got stumbled upon means Google hates SIP. I think it means they are working on something and will release it when it is done.

I mean, c'mon, Google is building SIP support directly into their phone OS. They aren't against you. Be patient.

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Re:Why Does Google Hate SIP? by tdfx on Thursday March 10, 2011 @01:03PM (#2310030)

I just reused someone elses' thread title for HN. I don't believe (as the original author might) that Google hates SIP. My concern is that they purchased a company with a functional and well-liked product and are shutting it down before they have any alternative to offer.

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Re:Why Does Google Hate SIP? by rwl on Thursday March 10, 2011 @12:51PM (#2309992)

> I mean, c'mon, Google is building SIP support directly into their phone OS. They aren't against you. Be patient.

According to this [1], SIP support already exists in Android 2.3. I don't know how far this "support" goes (I suppose it's not hooked up to the Google Voice app, at least). And I wonder how many carriers, once they are shipping Android 2.3, are going to leave that code in place and accessible to the user.

I don't want to be too much of a conspiracy theorist here, but I do wonder if Google is dragging their feet on SIP support because of conflicts of interest with Android.

[1] http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2010/12/android-23-pl...

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Re:Why Does Google Hate SIP? by Pyrodogg on Thursday March 10, 2011 @01:12PM (#2310057)

I don't think the conflict is as strong as it once was. Mobile carriers have already begun to 'pivot' to be data providers instead of phone providers with data on the side. I think they'll find a way to get their margins either way and data, including voip calling, might end up being cheaper for them in the long run anyway. I guess that's contingent on if they can innovate fast enough to keep their networks from being crushed.

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Re:Why Does Google Hate SIP? by shareme on Thursday March 10, 2011 @02:02PM (#2310249)

Its optional support in that the OEM-MOs can not implemented it in their Android OS distribution..

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Re:Why Does Google Hate SIP? by technomancy on Thursday March 10, 2011 @12:16PM (#2309865)

It wouldn't be so bad if it hadn't happened right after they killed Gizmo, which I was relying on for my primary number.

Salt on a wound; ugh.

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Re:Why Does Google Hate SIP? by Kylekramer on Thursday March 10, 2011 @12:21PM (#2309892)

I don't know, but I am willing to bet it isn't a coincidence that Gizmo5 is shutting down around the same time as hints of SIP for Google Voice #'s is leaking.

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Re:Why Does Google Hate SIP? by technomancy on Thursday March 10, 2011 @01:05PM (#2310034)

Most people seem to be misunderstanding this, but the recently discovered GV+SIP support is not a replacement for Gizmo SIP accounts. It allows other SIP users to call GV numbers transparently, but it doesn't allow SIP clients to act as GV clients purely over VoIP.

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Re:Why Does Google Hate SIP? by Kylekramer on Thursday March 10, 2011 @01:13PM (#2310061)

Again, I am just purely speculating, but I suspect that the discovered support was just a small part of a full SIP client.

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