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Re:New Zealand PM: No open borders for 'a long time' by halostatue on Wednesday May 06, 2020 @03:52PM (#23095526)
Over thousands of years, no herd immunity has ever been developed for smallpox, measles, chickenpox, or various other diseases.

Only vaccine development allowed the creation of any level of herd immunity. There’s no such thing as “natural herd immunity” in the real world.

Re:New Zealand PM: No open borders for 'a long time' by ghaff on Wednesday May 06, 2020 @04:01PM (#23095619)
Whether or not "herd immunity" is the right term, Europeans were sure a lot better protected against smallpox than the inhabitants of the Americas were when said Europeans arrived and started spreading the disease.
Re:New Zealand PM: No open borders for 'a long time' by Taniwha on Wednesday May 06, 2020 @04:15PM (#23095756)
nor coronaviruses, those pesky colds stay with us because the antibodies don't last
Re:New Zealand PM: No open borders for 'a long time' by learc83 on Wednesday May 06, 2020 @04:00PM (#23095606)
That's absurd. Why do you think that a particular smallpox or measles epidemic dies out? Because enough people have been infected in a given population that it can no longer spread in that population.

That doesn't mean the disease will go extinct, but the epidemic will end in that population. Flare ups can still happen among sub groups of people in the population who aren't immune but the disease won't spread rapidly through the population as a whole until the number of people who are immune drops below the herd immunity threshold for that particular disease/community.