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Re:WinUI – The modern native UI platform of Windows by asdff on Wednesday May 06, 2020 @02:12PM (#23094402)
You can do those last few things pretty easily, by the way, but the desktop philosophy of macOS is just very different. It functions a lot like a real desk. Things are sized however they are meant to be sized, and you kind of pile them up. I don't line up things on my desk edge to edge maximizing space, its not necessary as some overlap and slop is fine. Apple has a lot of tools with sorta redundant functionality that make it easy to sift through the pile and see everything at once. Three fingers swiped up on the trackpad spreads everything out on your desktop, just like spreading out papers on your desk.

It might seem like an issue if you are coming from a tiling window management environment, but over time it becomes quite familiar and intuitive to use because of all the parallels with the physical world and how we interact with physical objects. I have tried the tiling window manager route, and it's more clumsy than anything imo.

Re:WinUI – The modern native UI platform of Windows by rrrrrrrrrrrryan on Wednesday May 06, 2020 @04:56PM (#23096185)
Parallels to the real-world certainly make technology easier to learn, but not necessarily easier to use, and I'd argue it goes against the main benefit of computing - simplifying physical processes through abstraction.

You could design a VR environment that lets you walk around your virtual house, open your virtual front door, walk down your virtual driveway to your virtual mailbox, pull out virtual envelopes and open your virtual mail, but you'd just be replicating all the old real world cruft that doesn't matter to achieve your goal. What you really want is just to read some text in an email.

I had an older professor in college who still read and replied to all of his email via terminal, and he was multiples faster than those of use that used Gmail, but I remember thinking I'd never devote the time to learn to do things this way when the way I'm used to works just fine.

Apple has done a tremendous amount to make technology more approachable, and in doing so has brought millions into the digital age, but I do think the pendulum has swung a bit too far - a monitor isn't a desk, it's a monitor. Too much value is placed on "intuitiveness" these days, and while those real-world parallels might feel nice to interact with, there's a time to disavow ourselves of them to take full-advantage of what the technology can be.

Re:WinUI – The modern native UI platform of Windows by kevincox on Wednesday May 06, 2020 @02:41PM (#23094738)
I don't line things up on my desk because it is difficult. However using Windows or Linux it is the default and I get to see more. I don't think copying the existing use case blindly makes sense. In some cases it does, and in some cases it may be more intuitive but there is no need to copy the limitations of our past when it is not beneficial.