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Re:No cookie consent walls, scrolling isn’t consent, says EU... by cglace on Wednesday May 06, 2020 @11:47AM (#23092352)
Sure, I'm not a psychopath, I understand the usefulness of laws. I just don't think the restriction in question is reasonable. To me, it seems like a choice an individual should make for themselves: access or data?
Re:No cookie consent walls, scrolling isn’t consent, says EU... by ratww on Wednesday May 06, 2020 @12:08PM (#23092652)
That would create perverse incentives and make the web a worse place.

The point of the law is quite clear: allowing people to use the web without having anyone force them into giving away personal information.

Sure, some companies won't be able to be creepy to users, but that was an acceptable tradeoff to the law.

Re:No cookie consent walls, scrolling isn’t consent, says EU... by cglace on Wednesday May 06, 2020 @12:17PM (#23092757)
In theory, in practice users consent and move on. You’ve just added an annoying extra step on every site. Victory?
Re:No cookie consent walls, scrolling isn’t consent, says EU... by athenot on Wednesday May 06, 2020 @01:15PM (#23093650)
Or users decline and move on, since decline is supposed to be just as easy as consent.
Re:No cookie consent walls, scrolling isn’t consent, says EU... by cglace on Wednesday May 06, 2020 @01:23PM (#23093745)
They could, I just don't personally see that as a clear cut win for the web.
Re:No cookie consent walls, scrolling isn’t consent, says EU... by athenot on Wednesday May 06, 2020 @02:01PM (#23094271)
If UX is important, then don't track users. There's no consent required if you're not tracking.
Re:No cookie consent walls, scrolling isn’t consent, says EU... by ratww on Wednesday May 06, 2020 @01:05PM (#23093500)
Collecting data and being annoying are entirely optional and a choice made by companies. The law is a still a partial victory for privacy.
Re:No cookie consent walls, scrolling isn’t consent, says EU... by cglace on Wednesday May 06, 2020 @02:03PM (#23094285)
It may be optional but it seems to be the standard rather than the exception.

I just don't see people really caring about their privacy. When given the choice between convenience and privacy people generally choose convenience. As someone who doesn't have a dog in this fight, I just end up annoyed.

Re:No cookie consent walls, scrolling isn’t consent, says EU... by ratww on Thursday May 07, 2020 @07:02AM (#23101657)
Just because something is a standard doesn't mean it's right. It also doesn't mean the law shouldn't discourage it.

And just because people don't care doesn't mean a company is automatically allowed to track people.

If the law were followed by the letter and companies weren't using dark patterns or ambiguous marketing-speak to convince people to allow cookies, only people with pro-tracking stances would allow it.