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Re:No cookie consent walls, scrolling isn’t consent, says EU... by derefr on Wednesday May 06, 2020 @10:25AM (#23091293)
What if the law said that the company has to serve EU users the same way it serves non-EU users, and to do otherwise would be considered an act of trade war by a private US corporation against the EU (the same as if e.g. a US private defense contractor, hired by some other power, hacked into EU corporations and caused property damage against them)—basically making the whole thing into a “diplomatic incident” each time it happened?

Heck, what if they said that everyone doing things their way is their condition on staying in WIPO, and if a country can’t bring its corporations into line, then the EU will declare all WIPO IP-right assertions originating from that country null and void within the EU, free for any EU corporation to exploit?

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Re:No cookie consent walls, scrolling isn’t consent, says EU... by Maskawanian on Wednesday May 06, 2020 @10:56AM (#23091658)
I don't think anyone should be forced to service foreign nations. As a citizen of a non EU country, I'd take issue with being compelled to work with them.

EU would effectively be declaring war on a significant percentage of the world. They have no jurisdiction beyond their borders.

Taking your ball and going home, while not the best for business, should be an option.

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Re:No cookie consent walls, scrolling isn’t consent, says EU... by derefr on Wednesday May 06, 2020 @10:57AM (#23091673)
I mean, you're not forced to service foreign nations. But if you are trading with foreign nations, then you've got to realize that that is fundamentally a voluntary relationship—trade doesn't exist by default, it is created by a spirit of mutual cooperation, on a foundation of compromise. If that spirit of cooperation and foundation of compromise don't exist, then the trade cannot exist.

Or, to put that another way: WIPO itself is something the US "forced" on the rest of the world. But it wasn't actually force; it was just a condition on other nations continuing to trade with the US.

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Re:No cookie consent walls, scrolling isn’t consent, says EU... by Maskawanian on Wednesday May 06, 2020 @11:57AM (#23092494)
As I said, taking your ball and going home should be an option. That implies NOT trading with EU.

As per wiktionary.org: "To cease participating in an activity that has turned to one's disadvantage, especially out of spite, or in a way that prevents others from participating as well."

You are assuming a point I did not make.

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Re:No cookie consent walls, scrolling isn’t consent, says EU... by levosmetalo on Wednesday May 06, 2020 @11:26AM (#23092053)
You mean like EU companies are not forced to stop trading with Iran, it was their free decision.
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Re:No cookie consent walls, scrolling isn’t consent, says EU... by shkkmo on Wednesday May 06, 2020 @12:03PM (#23092592)
Yes, I believe Iran sanctions function similarly to WIPO, the US requires people to follow certain rules if they want to do business with the US.
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Re:No cookie consent walls, scrolling isn’t consent, says EU... by wlll on Wednesday May 06, 2020 @02:46PM (#23094794)
Just block EU IP addresses if you want. No-one is forcing you to allow access to any particular country or region.
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Re:No cookie consent walls, scrolling isn’t consent, says EU... by martin8412 on Wednesday May 06, 2020 @04:14PM (#23095742)
Doesn't make a difference. If I access your site as a EU citizen through a VPN, then you must follow GDPR.
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Re:No cookie consent walls, scrolling isn’t consent, says EU... by wlll on Wednesday May 06, 2020 @04:21PM (#23095823)
Honestly I'm not sure about what the outcome is there, has it ever been tested?
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Re:No cookie consent walls, scrolling isn’t consent, says EU... by cortesoft on Wednesday May 06, 2020 @11:08AM (#23091807)
An act of trade war? What does that even mean?

Lots of companies won't ship things to certain countries, that doesn't make it a trade war.

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