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Re:Firefox 76 by Wowfunhappy on Tuesday May 05, 2020 @03:26PM (#23083833)
Reddit was pretty annoyed too. I actually did a little real-life poll (I admittedly might care about minute details too much!), and everyone was either indifferent or negative. Indifference was more common, but, is that really a good outcome?

> Firefox simply wanted it to be more obvious that the address bar is in focus the moment you open a new tab.

Is that it? Because I'm still trying to figure this out! I'm just really surprised that this was a problem for a substantial number of users—the address bar already had a very prominent focus state with its thick blue outline.

Re:Firefox 76 by prophesi on Tuesday May 05, 2020 @03:58PM (#23084236)
Indifference shouldn't be surprising for a minute detail. I didn't even know about the feature until I saw this thread (clicking address bar expands it), since I normally immediately start typing once I open a new tab.

I'd even argue that indifference should be the goal when making design changes; make subtle changes over time instead of the complete overhauls that are common today.

Re:Firefox 76 by Wowfunhappy on Tuesday May 05, 2020 @04:49PM (#23084882)
I totally agree, but only if there's also either (A) some people who actually like the change or (B) the change is addressing a specific UX problem.

If everyone is indifferent, why did you change anything?

Re:Firefox 76 by roca on Tuesday May 05, 2020 @05:27PM (#23085283)
It is possible to fix UI problems without people noticing.

Also, people quickly get used to suboptimal UI and all kinds of UI bugs. Fixing those bugs improves the experience for new users while acclimatized users will be indifferent or even hostile to the change. It's a classic dilemma for long-lived products.

Re:Firefox 76 by igetspam on Wednesday May 06, 2020 @08:24AM (#23090149)
I'm shocked that was the goal but I also couldn't grok the intent. The bar doesn't need to expand and look silly to make it obvious it's the selected input. We have perfectly adequate elements for that already. I assumed there were new features that they were trying to highlight in a non obvious way.
Re:Firefox 76 by alpaca128 on Tuesday May 05, 2020 @04:15PM (#23084458)
> the address bar already had a very prominent focus state with its thick blue outline.

Either I never noticed or that very prominent focus state was invisible in the theme I installed. So yes, it was definitely one of the most regular issues I had with Firefox and now it's fixed. Not in the most elegant way but it works for me.

Re:Firefox 76 by boomboomsubban on Tuesday May 05, 2020 @06:27PM (#23085869)
>Indifference was more common, but, is that really a good outcome?

Indifference among people already using Firefox is a good outcome if it is viewed favorably by people new to Firefox, which is who I would guess these kinds of changes are aimed at.