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Re:A look at modern PHP by goatlover on Tuesday May 05, 2020 @12:52PM (#23082051)
This and the parent comments are assuming that all language criticism boils down to tribalism/elitism and not problems with the language itself, as if all PLs are the same, and the choice to use them is arbitrary.
Re:A look at modern PHP by Spivak on Tuesday May 05, 2020 @01:12PM (#23082307)
I mean the choice isn't literally arbitrary but it matters a lot less than the ecosystem and you can't really make a wrong choice as .NET, JS, PHP, Java, Ruby, Python, Go, $ReasonablyPopularLang are all plenty productive.
Re:A look at modern PHP by goatlover on Tuesday May 05, 2020 @03:07PM (#23083603)
Sure, but there are legitimate criticisms around types, complexity, security, maintainability, scalability and performance where the language choice can matter. Certainly when the project gets large.
Re:A look at modern PHP by mtnGoat on Tuesday May 05, 2020 @03:33PM (#23083914)
those concerns prevail in every large project i've seen, regardless of language.

I think skill and knowledge of the coders is vastly more important then the language choice... you can write insecure, slow code in any language.

Re:A look at modern PHP by mtnGoat on Tuesday May 05, 2020 @03:35PM (#23083939)
somewhat agree, but many comments here detracting from PHP don't have any substance as to why... they come off as tribal and elitest.