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Re:Popcorn Time repository unavailable due to DMCA takedown by michaelmrose on Monday May 04, 2020 @11:44PM (#23076272)
>If the creator isn’t getting paid for you to watch, then it’s theft.

Except that bits and bars of gold are nothing alike which is why you can't be convicted of theft for copying bits. Given that there is literally no relation in law nor morality between theft and copyright infringement even if you believe copyright is effective and desirable tool you could skip a lot of misunderstanding by skipping the part where you use a bad analogy to muddy the water.

Re:Popcorn Time repository unavailable due to DMCA takedown by rbobby on Tuesday May 05, 2020 @12:18AM (#23076448)
> and thus nobody 'lost' anything

Every illegal download reduces the size of the legal purchase marketplace.

Re:Popcorn Time repository unavailable due to DMCA takedown by michaelmrose on Tuesday May 05, 2020 @12:31AM (#23076510)
> I rbobby killed JFK and Hoffa and I did it all for the benjamins

Quotes are for referencing literal quotes of the parent post or at least quotes from the parent poster not to put words in others mouths.

Re:Popcorn Time repository unavailable due to DMCA takedown by eterps on Tuesday May 05, 2020 @02:36AM (#23077161)
> Every illegal download reduces the size of the legal purchase marketplace.

Source? Why wouldn't it be possible for every illegal download to increase the size of the legal purchase marketplace? Or to have it effectively stay the same for that matter?

Re:Popcorn Time repository unavailable due to DMCA takedown by pbhjpbhj on Tuesday May 05, 2020 @07:37AM (#23078912)
Interestingly, there's a post on HN today about how someone made their copyright work (a book) free-gratis and sold more copies.
Re:Popcorn Time repository unavailable due to DMCA takedown by iamnothere on Tuesday May 05, 2020 @12:24PM (#23081747)
The effects are complicated and hard to measure, but in the Napster era some bands did find that piracy helped their sales. For small bands it definitely can help with promotion. Then there were megabands like Radiohead that put out free albums and cashed in on the publicity via ticket and merch sales.

The back catalog stuff (Rolling Stones etc) probably suffers although IMHO the copyright on this stuff should be much shorter anyway.

Re:Popcorn Time repository unavailable due to DMCA takedown by jai_ on Tuesday May 05, 2020 @06:31AM (#23078454)
By that logic, I should be able to illegally download a movie, immediately delete it from my hard drive and then repeat this process as many times as I want to continuously shrink the size of the legal purchase market from my bedroom until it is zero.
Re:Popcorn Time repository unavailable due to DMCA takedown by boomboomsubban on Tuesday May 05, 2020 @04:15AM (#23077703)
One illegal download leading to a legal purchase proves this ridiculous statement wrong.
Re:Popcorn Time repository unavailable due to DMCA takedown by realusername on Tuesday May 05, 2020 @02:35AM (#23077155)
> Every illegal download reduces the size of the legal purchase marketplace.

There's never been a single study proving that illegal downloads harms legal sales.