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Re:New 13-inch MacBook Pro by arcticbull on Monday May 04, 2020 @03:43PM (#23072426)
It feels like neither's a complete solution: on the touch bar you see what touching a button would do, but you have to look, and even then you don't know if you've touched it since there's no feedback.

On the keyboard, you don't know what a key would do in a given situation.

Sounds like we need a third option.

Re:New 13-inch MacBook Pro by breuleux on Monday May 04, 2020 @06:22PM (#23074072)
It's not necessarily true you have to look. BTT lets you define actions for sliding 2/3/4 fingers left or right on the entirety of the touchbar. You can set it up to change volume, brightness, ctrl+tab, change the size of a drawing tool, undo/redo, whatever. It works anywhere on the strip, so it's very forgiving.

I actually only just now thought of mapping 3-finger swipe to undo/redo. I've only been messing around with it for five minutes but it's kind of nice, honestly! It's better than cmd+z when you need to undo/redo more than once, because it bypasses the key repeat setting.

Re:New 13-inch MacBook Pro by williamdclt on Monday May 04, 2020 @04:00PM (#23072598)
SAY NO MORE

you do have feedback with the touchbar! As I recently learned, the trackpad click isn't really a click. It can be triggered by software! And bettertouchtool has a specific action for "touchpad haptic feedback". That means you can trigger a touchpad click when you tap a touchbar button, and it perfectly fine as feedback.

Yes you do have to look. I'm not recommending touchbar actions for things that you do so often that it's a problem (though I have a big button to switch between firefox and vscode, big enough that I don't have to look). But it's not like I was using fn keys without looking either

Re:New 13-inch MacBook Pro by arcticbull on Monday May 04, 2020 @04:26PM (#23072855)
That's really cool, I'ma give it a shot!
Re:New 13-inch MacBook Pro by a_t48 on Monday May 04, 2020 @05:04PM (#23073225)
There's always https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optimus_Maximus_keyboard but it sounds like it was extremely expensive and hard to type on.