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Re:Companies consider abandoning open office layouts to prev... by sharadov on Monday May 04, 2020 @01:54PM (#23071135)
The FAANG's overwhelmingly employ younger folks, give them the college atmosphere - free food, drinks, laundry on site, foosball table. And they spend their entire day at work for these so-called "benefits". I met one guy who was so happy that his company provided breakfast, lunch, and dinner at work, thought it was the greatest thing, he felt bad that he could not have the same arrangement for the weekend. I was like, dude, you live once, get a fuckin life!
Re:Companies consider abandoning open office layouts to prev... by JMTQp8lwXL on Monday May 04, 2020 @02:14PM (#23071390)
It's not a terminal thing. Work for a FANG for ~10 years then retire early. But over those 10 years, hustle hard and save what you can.
Re:Companies consider abandoning open office layouts to prev... by muro on Monday May 04, 2020 @03:05PM (#23071968)
The pay is good, but if you have a family, saving enough in 10 years to retire is unlikely.
Re:Companies consider abandoning open office layouts to prev... by JMTQp8lwXL on Monday May 04, 2020 @03:44PM (#23072436)
Not in the Bay Area, but a more affordable area of the US, it's possible. And if you plan on retiring early, there's no need to live in a housing market around lots of profitable tech businesses that make housing expensive.
Re:Companies consider abandoning open office layouts to prev... by neffy on Monday May 04, 2020 @02:40PM (#23071673)
As long as you pick the right 10 years.
Re:Companies consider abandoning open office layouts to prev... by sharadov on Monday May 04, 2020 @10:47PM (#23075876)
The smart ones are playing the arbitrage game, by living in an RV and keeping costs down.
Re:Companies consider abandoning open office layouts to prev... by maccard on Monday May 04, 2020 @06:31PM (#23074138)
I support the meals in the office as a real meaningful perk. It's usually not a taxable perk, and Covid has shown me that with snacks (crisps, chocate,soft drinks, a cookid with a coffee), breakfast top ups (I bring oats to work and use fruit from the office), office coffee (im going through a bag a week rather than a bag a month right now), my food spend has at least doubled.

The food isn't amazing but it's usually pretty good, there's little to no clean up (giving me back an hour or so a week of prep and cleaning time), it forces me into a routine of lunch at 12:30, and nobody is forcing me into it so sometimes I bring my own.

> I was like, dude, you live once, get a fuckin life!

Work is a big part of life (in terms of time spent), even if you stick strictly to a 9-5. Its not unreasonable to try and make it comfortable, or possibly even pleasant or enjoyable at times.

Re:Companies consider abandoning open office layouts to prev... by sharadov on Monday May 04, 2020 @11:02PM (#23075983)
You seem to have a balance, good for you.
Re:Companies consider abandoning open office layouts to prev... by TheSpiceIsLife on Monday May 04, 2020 @03:35PM (#23072336)
Meal planning, preparation, and cleaning is a non-trivial task and time sink for many people.
Re:Companies consider abandoning open office layouts to prev... by 121789 on Monday May 04, 2020 @06:11PM (#23073969)
3 healthy meals provided a day for free with someone else cleaning for you is a huge benefit if you're young. Many places have breakfast until 10 and dinner starting at 6, so it's not even a big departure from a normal workday
Re:Companies consider abandoning open office layouts to prev... by sharadov on Monday May 04, 2020 @10:52PM (#23075912)
Breakfast and lunch is ok, once you start talking "free dinner" it gets suspicious. Also, there is a huge problem where the "young" never truly become adults and learn some life skills. I quite enjoy making a meal, while I work my way through a nice craft cocktail, while there is a good track playing in the background. I zealously guard my time after work for sports, hobbies and for people near and dear to me.