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Re:Ask HN: How do you manage self-study? by tomxor on Sunday May 03, 2020 @07:16PM (#23062693)
I want to add some clarification for everyone in the "normal" boat, because I think I learn in the same way as parent:

Specifically what "enjoy" is being attributed to... which is _not_ the end result, but the _process_. You can't pick this up front, you have to just play and throw things away like you don't care (and you really don't care), just keep trying things until it feels enjoyable. I suspect people get stuck running uphill because they focus on end results rather than the process. In the most extremely obvious case, if you ask most kids what they want to be when the grow up (the end result) they predictably say astronaut or some lofty, hard to attain but awesome sounding end result, even though they have absolutely no idea if they would enjoy the process of becoming and being an astronaut.

... Focus on the process, i.e play, and care about nothing other than interest and enjoyment, you cannot pick the precise end result, you can only roll the marble along the most effective path to an unspecified "good" result.

Re:Ask HN: How do you manage self-study? by connectsnk on Monday May 04, 2020 @01:10AM (#23064763)
This needs a bot more clarification please. What are your thoughts about the process of browsing social media which is interesting and enjoyable
Re:Ask HN: How do you manage self-study? by andai on Monday May 04, 2020 @04:00AM (#23065562)
I've wondered recently whether I want things that are bad for me, and how to tell the difference.

What I noticed was that cravings for harmful substances or behaviors were (the craving itself) a form of suffering, a feeling of lack, while desires for healthy things were a form of positive emotion / eagerness.

Re:Ask HN: How do you manage self-study? by tomxor on Tuesday May 05, 2020 @09:59AM (#23080060)
In essence you are asking me to explain how to differentiate entertainment from everything else.

It's probably best to literally ask yourself that question honestly, but a good rule of thumb might be: If it's not intellectually stimulating, it's probably pure entertainment. This is tricky because some good forms of entertainment will make you think, but probably not enough to be considered "learning" in the way we mean here.