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Re:Why Restaurants Are So Fucked by Rebelgecko on Saturday May 02, 2020 @03:32AM (#23050085)
That part seemed strange to me. According to people I know that have worked in food/beverage industry, the most expensive part of a cup of Coke at a movie theater or fast food restaurant is the actual cup itself. The liquid inside the cup costs pennies.
Re:Why Restaurants Are So Fucked by mtrower on Saturday May 02, 2020 @09:48AM (#23051760)
Syrup is cheap, water is cheap, C02 is cheap... for a fountain drink, you are indeed correct. The margins here are crazy.

I assumed this vendor was selling bottled or canned soft drinks. Why that is, I couldn't say (just as I couldn't say why they're renting a dishwasher, why they're paying a linen cleaning service rather than purchasing a washing machine, etc...).

Re:Why Restaurants Are So Fucked by veggieburglar on Saturday May 02, 2020 @10:18AM (#23051921)
It’s very common to rent a dishwasher. High volume dishwashers break down all the time and need very regular servicing and cleaning. At every establishment I have been associated with (wine industry) I’ve been on a first name basis with my dishwasher service rep.

With linen, when you go through a big volume, it is infinitely easier to use a linen company than to do it yourself on site. You’d have to buy industrial washers, pay rent on space to keep them, know how to service them, pay staff to operate them, etc...

If you’re a large chain, perhaps you could bring those operations in house. If you’re tiny, you could do it yourself. But if you’re seeing over 100 guests a day, there’s no reason not to use service companies for these two examples.

Re:Why Restaurants Are So Fucked by mtrower on Saturday May 02, 2020 @02:06PM (#23053651)
Hmm, pulling from past experience from the fast-food industry... I never saw our commercial dishwasher[0] break down in year after year of service. It really seemed like a simple, reliable machine to me. The kind of thing I'd be shocked if I couldn't disassemble, understand and repair myself if necessary. (Okay, it was old, and a bit crotchety; there was some component which regularly acted up. However, it was simple enough to "fix" it and move along, so we never really minded). However, alright, lets say that maintenance is a major issue, and so renting is financially attractive. I defer to your experience in this arena.

> With linen, when you go through a big volume, it is infinitely easier to use a linen company than to do it yourself on site. You’d have to buy industrial washers, pay rent on space to keep them, know how to service them, pay staff to operate them, etc...

How much volume could a small restaurant like this need for cleaning towels? More than a McDonald's doing top sales in the state? They get by just fine on a single washing unit[1]. Dump the dirty towel buckets in the washer, add detergent, run. When it's clean, distribute them into buckets of sanitizer so they're ready to use. Takes a few minutes, that's it; usually you'd do it during downtime. It's been too many years to remember now, but that machine was probably run a few times a day (maybe once every 4-6 hours). The process was very streamlined and efficient, and I can't imagine what involving a third party would bring to the table (perhaps if there was legitimately not floor space for a single washing unit in your building?).

I guess if it's common, it's common. I must not understand the business constraints involved, or maybe it's prevalent in certain areas and not in others. The U.S. is a very large and varied place, after all, to say nothing of the rest of the world. I'll have to ask my friend what her family restaurant does for a small-scale perspective.

[0] this type here, more or less: https://4.imimg.com/data4/DW/DT/MY-9292814/dishwasher-500x50...

[1] it was a lot like this (with the coin mechanism removed). Not glamorous, but got the job done just fine: http://i.ebayimg.com/images/i/271466627178-0-1/s-l1000.jpg

Re:Why Restaurants Are So Fucked by wiredfool on Saturday May 02, 2020 @05:28AM (#23050537)
My first boss said the ice was the most expensive part. But that just may have been his occasionally flakey ice machine.
Re:Why Restaurants Are So Fucked by runxel on Saturday May 02, 2020 @07:01AM (#23050996)
Possibly because the machine costs a bit, the constant running costs, and maintaining of course as well.

Also maybe because you don't want to use tap water...

Re:Why Restaurants Are So Fucked by veggieburglar on Saturday May 02, 2020 @10:21AM (#23051933)
As with my examples above (linen and dishwashing) ice machines are also notoriously difficult/expensive. They most certainly have to be cleaned & serviced regularly. When the Board of Health comes in, the ice machine is one the first places they look as it’s basically a invitation to a mold party without diligent cleaning.