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Re:SUVs parked on cargo ships reveal scope of U.S. auto mark... by nradov on Friday May 01, 2020 @06:18PM (#23047116)
I doubt that most mass-market auto manufacturers want to move away from the franchise dealer model. It's tremendously capital intensive. Tesla can make it work since their cost of capital is so low. Where would Ford or GM get the billions in funding to run thousands of dealerships across the country?
Re:SUVs parked on cargo ships reveal scope of U.S. auto mark... by khaledtaha on Friday May 01, 2020 @06:43PM (#23047291)
Having worked at an OEM and in automotive I can tell that what you’re saying is simply not true.

Where would they get the money? From cutting out the middleman, from increasing sales by offering an alternative to the terrible dealership experience (spending 1-2 hours buying a car is not ok) and from gaining the flexibility to offer alternative business models (i.e. subscription models).

Dealerships are the past. They may very well be the deadweight that will cause incumbent OEMs to sink rather than swim.

Re:SUVs parked on cargo ships reveal scope of U.S. auto mark... by RhodesianHunter on Friday May 01, 2020 @10:04PM (#23048459)
If any of the major manufacturers were stuck with the entire inventory their dealerships are sitting on right now, that would sink them.
Re:SUVs parked on cargo ships reveal scope of U.S. auto mark... by khaledtaha on Saturday May 02, 2020 @01:12AM (#23049426)
That’s what’s happening. The article mentions that exact scenario.
Re:SUVs parked on cargo ships reveal scope of U.S. auto mark... by RhodesianHunter on Tuesday May 05, 2020 @12:15AM (#23076419)
For every vehicle on a ship or stuck in port there are at least a dozen sitting on a dealer's lot.
Re:SUVs parked on cargo ships reveal scope of U.S. auto mark... by mikepurvis on Friday May 01, 2020 @07:22PM (#23047526)
The other key insight of the Tesla model is recognizing that three three traditional functions of a dealership don't actually benefit much from being colocated— which is why Tesla puts the showrooms in shopping malls, does the sales online with flatbed delivery, and locates service centers on marginal lands in industrial parks where it's easy to have a big parking lot and hold lots of parts inventory.

The legacy manufacturers could absolutely copy this approach and would love to do so.

Re:SUVs parked on cargo ships reveal scope of U.S. auto mark... by fock on Friday May 01, 2020 @08:28PM (#23047914)
I'm not sure, where you live, but here (Europe) car dealers are generally in the kind of urban sprawl, where industry and shopping malls are located as well. And the typical lifestyle brands have a lot of show-rooms in inner cities as well – for all the others I doubt it's necessary... People will buy used anyway...
Re:SUVs parked on cargo ships reveal scope of U.S. auto mark... by Retric on Friday May 01, 2020 @09:23PM (#23048245)
It’s not about suburban shopping malls, it’s about urban ones.

Traditional car dealerships need someplace to store all the new and used cars which quickly gets into hundreds of cars sitting around. Showrooms on the other hand can get away with representative samples which requires vastly less space. That means they can afford locations with vastly higher costs per square foot.

Re:SUVs parked on cargo ships reveal scope of U.S. auto mark... by toasterlovin on Saturday May 02, 2020 @12:57AM (#23049357)
> I'm not sure, where you live

This discussion is about American auto dealerships.

Re:SUVs parked on cargo ships reveal scope of U.S. auto mark... by geomark on Saturday May 02, 2020 @01:18AM (#23049463)
Seems useful to compare the dealership experience to how it works in other countries. In the US, the dealership experience seems to be pretty bad for many people, at least it was for me and everyone I know through several car purchases. It hasn't been the same experience for the several cars I have purchased after moving overseas. Not sure I could pin down the reasons why. It might be the same reasons that the service you get from banks here is so much better.
Re:SUVs parked on cargo ships reveal scope of U.S. auto mark... by rootusrootus on Saturday May 02, 2020 @12:14PM (#23052632)
I bought my Tesla from the showroom collocated with the service center, and picked up the car from the same location.
Re:SUVs parked on cargo ships reveal scope of U.S. auto mark... by mikepurvis on Monday May 04, 2020 @10:39AM (#23068589)
Interesting, where was this? All the showrooms I've seen are strictly that and not even legally able to sell you a car. All they can do is "help" you access the website and buy it yourself online.
Re:SUVs parked on cargo ships reveal scope of U.S. auto mark... by jcrawfordor on Friday May 01, 2020 @07:29PM (#23047577)
Almost all automakers are connected at the hip to a capital arm, so I think if anything they'd be unusually well positioned to take on the capex of building out a distribution network. Consider, by analogy, that banks and credit unions are unusual in commercial real estate for almost always owning their own buildings, for the same reason.
Re:SUVs parked on cargo ships reveal scope of U.S. auto mark... by legolas2412 on Friday May 01, 2020 @06:44PM (#23047298)
Because capital is extremely cheap in low interest environment?

They would want to cut out the middlemen car dealerships.

Re:SUVs parked on cargo ships reveal scope of U.S. auto mark... by aguyfromnb on Friday May 01, 2020 @08:00PM (#23047742)
Where do you get the idea that Tesla has a low cost of capital?

Both Ford and GM have substantially lower WACC than Tesla. The figures are public.