Re:France offers each cyclist €50 for bike repairs once lock...
by ViViDboarder on Friday May 01, 2020 @02:24PM
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I’m from America, but I visited Copenhagen a few years ago and was amazed by how many bikes there were. On top of it, most bikes were parked with only a wheel lock and not chained to anything.
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Re:France offers each cyclist €50 for bike repairs once lock...
by gautamdivgi on Friday May 01, 2020 @02:52PM
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You need a bike friendly road network. Where I am at in suburban Illinois, I have a 45 - 55 mph lane with no shoulder and no continuous sidewalk. There is no way I'm risking life and limb to commute on that with my bike.
On the other hand there are multiple trails which I can and will use now that spring/summer is here.
I think the reluctance to use bikes for basic transport is more to do with lack of space on the road rather than theft.
Re:France offers each cyclist €50 for bike repairs once lock...
by touisteur on Friday May 01, 2020 @03:46PM
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Theft plays a major role when you're thinking of buying an e-bike... When you're shelling 2+kEUR and you must put the fscking lock eeeeverytime you go somewhere, pause to buy bread, or whatever, and it's the same one or 2 minutes circus (first lock, then second lock, then don't forget the computer...). It gets tiring and discouraging.
Re:France offers each cyclist €50 for bike repairs once lock...
by akgerber on Friday May 01, 2020 @03:47PM
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Bike trails aren't used in winter because they aren't maintained, just as roads that aren't maintained in winter aren't driven on.
Re:France offers each cyclist €50 for bike repairs once lock...
by nicof on Friday May 01, 2020 @02:52PM
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Man visiting Copenhagen truly was a cultural shock, I walked past a street at midnight that may have had like 30 bikes in it without a lock. Those wouldn't last an hour without getting stolen where I'm from
Re:France offers each cyclist €50 for bike repairs once lock...
by cko on Friday May 01, 2020 @03:32PM
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I was in a suburban ward in Tokyo two years ago and it didn't look like any bikes had locks on them. They were all identical bikes with large kickstands.
Re:France offers each cyclist €50 for bike repairs once lock...
by SECProto on Friday May 01, 2020 @04:47PM
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They do use locks, they are just tiny things that lock the rear wheel in place. They look like the brake mechanism. For example: http://i.ebayimg.com/images/i/252774835823-0-1/s-l1000.jpg
side note: the ubiquitous Japanese bike style you're referring to is called "mamachari"
Re:France offers each cyclist €50 for bike repairs once lock...
by cko on Sunday May 03, 2020 @03:48PM
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Good to know. Here I was believing that Japanese society was so advanced they couldn't even conceive of theft.
I did feel a major sense of safety in Tokyo, however.
Re:France offers each cyclist €50 for bike repairs once lock...
by SECProto on Monday May 04, 2020 @06:21PM
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Yeah. I think it's more likely to stop someone accidentally taking the wrong bike. Since they aren't secured to anything and the locks aren't beefy, defeating it would be pretty trivial.
I have a number of friends with anecdotes about forgetting items on a bus/train and the lengths to which individuals or companies will go to return them is pretty impressive.