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Re:A case for ending lockdown by specialist on Thursday April 30, 2020 @10:31AM (#23031180)
Ryan Kemper is attempting to construct a decision making framework. Right or wrong, I like that someones are trying.

It now occurs to me that the experts (epidemiologists?) have already done this, which would be a pretty good starting point. If so, why aren't we now debating their plans?

I want someone, anyone to state thresholds and benchmarks. Tell us the parameters and values. Then we can have a constructive debate.

Declining infection and death rate for X days.

Permissible level of activities to keep R < 1.

Supply chain activity levels to keep people fed, production of essential goods.

Given the complete lack of a plan at the federal level, we can forgive the Ryan Kempers of the world for trying to make some sense of this craziness.

Also, it just now occurs to me the newly formed regional compacts most certainly are doing the same. I'll look to see my jurisdiction is publishing.

Re:A case for ending lockdown by ryanwaggoner on Thursday April 30, 2020 @12:17PM (#23032545)
Multiple groups of experts have released plans to reopen the country [1], and I'm assuming this is happening all over the globe. The reason some people are not debating them is that they find the options very unpalatable, so instead they turn to armchair experts who write authoritative-sounding treatises that tell us what we want to hear.

1. Examples: https://www.vox.com/2020/4/10/21215494/coronavirus-plans-soc...

Re:A case for ending lockdown by specialist on Thursday April 30, 2020 @12:44PM (#23032937)
Good stuff. Thanks.

Very quick response, because I will go back and read all the linked plans more thoroughly.

I want more of Center for American Progress's "Step #6: Targeted, gradual lifting of restrictions", done more concretely.

https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/healthcare/news/2020...

Apologies, because I'm way more arm wavy than pedantic, so always struggle to explain myself:

I expect:

Concrete targets with concrete numbers, to be revised as necessary. Repeating from above "Downward trend for X days."

Explicit preconditions and assumptions. Like "3 day supply surplus of PPE, with excess mfg capacity to allow ramp up." and "Sufficient testing (per capita) with X hours turnaround with < X false negatives."

Automatic actions, consequences when targets & thresholds are reached. Like "Restore social isolation if trends are flat or increasing for X days."

Initially, best guess for targets and thresholds are just fine, then iterate as we mature.

PS- CAP omitted temperature screenings, which I currently think must be part of the overall strategy.