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Re:With questionable copyright claim, Jay-Z orders deepfake ... by sandworm101 on Wednesday April 29, 2020 @12:11AM (#23015259)
>> as soon as really convincing yet nasty deepfakes of senators and representatives start making the rounds and spreading on Facebook, I suspect a new law will get passed incredibly quickly.

No. This isn't a new area of law. Legal "Deepfakes" have been around a long while. There is even a supreme court case covering the matter: Falwell, 1988. That involved a fake interview with Billy Graham, using his image and putting words in his mouth. If the 1988 supreme court wouldn't protect the reputation of a national religious leader, they aren't going to do so for politicians today.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hustler_Magazine_v._Falwell

This is from the movie, but it is accurate to what was said. This interaction really did change supreme court procedure, introducing a far less formal back-and-forth oral argument. Jokes were almost unheard of before this case.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeTuNES82O0

The trial court argument: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsvB61mDoG8

Re:With questionable copyright claim, Jay-Z orders deepfake ... by rustybolt on Wednesday April 29, 2020 @02:58AM (#23016218)
From [1]:

> In an 8–0 decision, the Court ruled in favor of Hustler magazine, holding that a parody ad published in the magazine depicting televangelist and political commentator Jerry Falwell Sr. as an incestuous drunk, was protected speech since Falwell was a public figure and the parody could not have been reasonably considered believable.

The post you're replying to explicitly talks about convincing deepfakes. Also, Falwell was a televangelist and political commentator, not a senator. So I don't think this court case is a good example.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hustler_Magazine_v._Falwell

Re:With questionable copyright claim, Jay-Z orders deepfake ... by burnte on Wednesday April 29, 2020 @10:29AM (#23019659)
No, deepfakes are relatively new. It's a specific term meaning a fake video produced with ANNs, not any type of picture that's been faked or photoshopped. The case you reference is a just and paste job, not a deepfake.
Re:With questionable copyright claim, Jay-Z orders deepfake ... by wtetzner on Wednesday April 29, 2020 @12:49PM (#23021292)
I don’t think the method of producing the fake is important in terms of court rulings.
Re:With questionable copyright claim, Jay-Z orders deepfake ... by ehsankia on Thursday April 30, 2020 @08:03PM (#23037725)
It kinda is though, if the network is trained on the source material itself. For example if I take the source material and move a few pixels, is that still the source material? What if I flip the video, which is technically moving every single pixel, that's still the a copyright issue even if the video is mirrored. The network is basically taking the pixels of the original content, learning from it, and creating a filtered version.
Re:With questionable copyright claim, Jay-Z orders deepfake ... by wtetzner on Saturday May 02, 2020 @12:37AM (#23049259)
I think you misunderstood my point. I meant that it doesn’t matter if someone modified it by hand or if it was done using a neural network.
Re:With questionable copyright claim, Jay-Z orders deepfake ... by burnte on Thursday April 30, 2020 @09:39AM (#23030649)
I didn't say it was, I simply corrected the definition of a word.
Re:With questionable copyright claim, Jay-Z orders deepfake ... by curiousgal on Wednesday April 29, 2020 @02:59AM (#23016226)
> If the 1988 supreme court wouldn't protect the reputation of a national religious leader, they aren't going to do so for politicians today.

Well that gave me a good chuckle! The fact that a supreme judge is appointed by the sitting president and confirmed by the Senate means that they can push whatever dogma the ruling party has.