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Re:With questionable copyright claim, Jay-Z orders deepfake ... by irjustin on Tuesday April 28, 2020 @08:44PM (#23013972)
I agree with deepfakes are derivatives. You're using the likeness of someone whether visual or audio to highlight work. People pay attention because of that likeness. Weird Al asks for permission, video games have to pay royalties. So JayZ should have been asked permission in that sense.

If this was a parody, that could probably be argued very differently. Not sure where this particular case falls legally.

I don't agree with if you don't own the copyright you are infringing by publishing something the model produces. It should be tied back to the likeness of the original source.

The argument would be - if I never used any copyrighted JayZ sources (talking in a public setting, not giving a speech) and produced a deepfake, provably so, that would prevent me from being sued by JayZ & co?

Ideally no, because I'm still using his likeness to promote something.

Re:With questionable copyright claim, Jay-Z orders deepfake ... by gnopgnip on Tuesday April 28, 2020 @11:47PM (#23015108)
Copyright only protects the written implementation, not ideas or likenesses. The amount of protection a likeness gets varies a lot more between states, it is a different set of laws, and outside of advertisements or defamation it often is not protected at all.