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Re:Heat Pump Water Heaters by m463 on Monday April 27, 2020 @09:35PM (#23002375)
Years ago, I was convinced that solar hot water heaters were ridiculously efficient and paid for themselves in just a few years.

Since that time, I've come to think that solar PV + an electric water heater is probably a better answer - easier to install, very little relative maintenance.

Now I wonder how solar PV + a heat pump water heater compares (especially if it doubles as a cooler for a surrounding room).

Re:Heat Pump Water Heaters by gwbas1c on Monday April 27, 2020 @10:41PM (#23002771)
That's what I did. My water heater is in the basement, and it keeps it dry during humid summers. (I live where we have humid summers.)

In my case, it makes sense because my solar PV is also to run heat pumps for heating and charging cars, and I have a good deal for net metering. Why have a separate hot water system running to my roof when I could just make the pv system a little bigger?

At least where I live, basements get damp in the summer and people have to run dehumidifiers. The heat pump water heater acts as a free dehumidifier that never needs to be drained.

Re:Heat Pump Water Heaters by kavalg on Tuesday April 28, 2020 @02:44AM (#23004168)
Can you clarify the "never needs to be drained" part?
Re:Heat Pump Water Heaters by LgWoodenBadger on Tuesday April 28, 2020 @08:34AM (#23006352)
Most plug-in dehumidifiers (the kind you'd use in a seasonally-humid basement, most likely) are used where there there is no floor-drain, so the condensation is collected in a gallon-or-two-sized bucket that you have to empty periodically.
Re:Heat Pump Water Heaters by gwbas1c on Thursday April 30, 2020 @10:58PM (#23038658)
The plumber hooked it up to the same kind of condensation pump/drain that central AC uses.
Re:Heat Pump Water Heaters by grecy on Monday April 27, 2020 @09:42PM (#23002410)
In certain parts of the world (tons of Australia, parts of Africa) literally every single building has a solar hot water heater.

They are fantastic in hot climates, and should be littering the roofs in CA, AZ, TX, etc.

Re:Heat Pump Water Heaters by BloominOnion on Tuesday April 28, 2020 @06:19AM (#23005497)
Not everywhere in Australia, you don't have to fit them but your home needs to meet a mandated minimum '6 star' energy rating. This comes down to everything in the house such as wattage per square meter of lighting, double glazing in windows etc.

The biggest pitfalls here usually with solar hot water is the storage capacity, especially with a family.

Re:Heat Pump Water Heaters by autonoshitbox on Monday April 27, 2020 @10:24PM (#23002682)
Americans are afraid of the "third-world look" of solar water heaters they know from vacations in Europe
Re:Heat Pump Water Heaters by grahamburger on Monday April 27, 2020 @10:33PM (#23002730)
I don't think this is true? Also for what it's worth I've spent time on the roofs of a lot of apartment buildings in the bay area and seen many solar water heaters. Newer buildings and homes tend to just have solar panels if anything, though.
Re:Heat Pump Water Heaters by dlhavema on Monday April 27, 2020 @11:49PM (#23003152)
I guess I'm not privileged to have seen that and would mind a setup on my house. I'm in AZ
Re:Heat Pump Water Heaters by generatorguy on Monday April 27, 2020 @10:36PM (#23002749)
You can get hot water for way cheaper using solar hot water than PV. I can’t speak to the maintenance.
Re:Heat Pump Water Heaters by m463 on Tuesday April 28, 2020 @12:22AM (#23003334)
That's the thing - I think the economics have changed.

When it was first a thing - solar hot water was expensive and pv was very expensive.

Then I over time the prices dropped. Sites like https:://sunelec.com made me think... I could afford a pallet of panels... or a container!

Also, pv water heating wouldn't strictly require an inverter.

As to the maintenance, I recall the carter vs reagan white house situation.