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Re:The San Francisco Bay Area shelter-in-place order is bein... by icelancer on Monday April 27, 2020 @08:16PM (#23001859)
>> If we want to get back to normal getting community spread to 0 should be the goal and we need to keep everything locked down to achieve that.

Do you know what that will cost both in an acute USD fashion as well as the geopolitical and economic chronic fashion? I'm legitimately interested if you've thought through the externalities of this plan.

Re:The San Francisco Bay Area shelter-in-place order is bein... by adrr on Monday April 27, 2020 @09:03PM (#23002165)
Economy will crash even if we open up and 50% of the population can’t participate due to age or having condition like obesity, diabetes or hypertension. People will continue to voluntarily shelter. Only way out of this getting Is community spread to near normal so we whole society can participate. Other countries have achieved this and will dominate economically. We are going to have food shortages because of our lack effort to control the virus.
Re:The San Francisco Bay Area shelter-in-place order is bein... by jshevek on Monday April 27, 2020 @10:35PM (#23002741)
I have seen many arguments with this same problem:

>Economy will crash even if we open up

This invites us to think of economic crashes as a do-or-don't function. This oversimplifies, and prevents us from thinking through the various degrees of "opening up" we might attempt, and the various kinds of economic harm we will suffer in different scenarios.

>People will continue to voluntarily shelter.

Some people will. Some people already were, for other medical reasons. The question is how many, and how much of an impact this will have (both in terms of controlling the disease spread, and harming people's physical health, emotional health, financial health).