Re:The San Francisco Bay Area shelter-in-place order is bein...
by tptacek on Monday April 27, 2020 @05:24PM
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Then what's happening right now is a refutation of that data, right? Because we have sky-high unemployment and nothing resembling those numbers. It's almost as if unemployment in ordinary circumstances is not the same as unemployment caused by a discrete, universally-applicable crisis.
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Re:The San Francisco Bay Area shelter-in-place order is bein...
by rbritton on Monday April 27, 2020 @05:32PM
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This study suggests that the resulting rise in deaths isn't immediate. That it isn't measurable now does not mean it isn't coming.
>1 %-point rise in the unemployment rate raises the risk of dying next year by 6%.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S02779...
Re:The San Francisco Bay Area shelter-in-place order is bein...
by toomuchtodo on Monday April 27, 2020 @05:29PM
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I will not dispute that you could be right. We'll only know for sure looking back from the future (lagging indicators and such).
Re:The San Francisco Bay Area shelter-in-place order is bein...
by tptacek on Monday April 27, 2020 @05:33PM
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I think the "harm from unemployment will swamp harm from C19" argument will get stronger the longer lockdown lasts, but that the ~month we've had widespread lockdown orders is not close to long enough to make the argument without clear data. We have strong evidence that explosive C19 case growth kills lots of people; that's a hard data point to overcome.
If you want to be frustrated with the unbounded nature of the crisis, I think the right place to focus that anger is on testing; in Illinois, we have something like a 22% positive rate on PCR testing, suggesting we're not testing nearly enough people.
Re:The San Francisco Bay Area shelter-in-place order is bein...
by toomuchtodo on Monday April 27, 2020 @05:34PM
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I drove passed a testing center in Aurora at the Premium Outlet Mall (I-88 & Farnsworth) twice this weekend, both Saturday and Sunday morning. They opened at 8am each day, and had reached capacity shortly after. I agree that testing efforts deserve the ire of the populace.