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Re:Gates Foundation will commit 'total attention' to coronav... by skuthus on Monday April 27, 2020 @10:35AM (#22996192)
I am shocked an appalled to see that there is an anti-vaxx undertone present on HN.

A simple google search reveals that this information is false.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/bill-gates-id2020/

Please, @csense - this is only a digital certificate, one which is clearly designed not to actively track someone, but to provide much needed medical info in 3rd world countries who don't have the infrastructure to store vaccination records across borders.

Personally, I think you should be ashamed of making such a disingenuous connection.

Re:Gates Foundation will commit 'total attention' to coronav... by csense on Monday April 27, 2020 @11:38AM (#22996847)
First of all, I'm not anti-vax. When there's an approved vaccine for coronavirus, I'll get it myself, and urge everyone I know to do the same.

Second, let's think for a few seconds how this technology would actually work in practice.

The technology is a method which allows you to put a few bits of information into the skin. Presumably it's permanent, non-user-visible and non-user-removable.

From there it's protocol design. Option (a), you could store the data of which vaccines directly on the person. Option (b), you could store some kind of ID number to an online database.

We can have a fine flamewar over the merits and drawbacks of Option (a) vs Option (b). But I think it's safe to assume there's maybe a 50% chance they'll end up going with Option (b).

This is pretty worrying. You state the fact it'll presumably only be deployed in Africa, but this is not reassuring. In African countries, it seems like it happens frequently that the government decides this week, it's your tribe's turn for genocide. In this case you'd want to make a run for it, escape your tribe's normal haunts where the death squads will be out in force.

Of course you could sneak across a border, or openly walk into a foreign customs post and ask for asylum, but changing countries has its own set of risks and problems.

An alternative survival strategy would be to simply destroy your identifying documents, if you ever had any, and try to blend in somewhere else. If your identifying document's a non-removable tattoo, you can't do this.

Re:Gates Foundation will commit 'total attention' to coronav... by skuthus on Monday April 27, 2020 @11:46AM (#22996948)
The technology is not currently being implemented in the manufacturing process for any vaccine currently being made. To suggest otherwise is disingenuous. As an example of the damage that suggestion does, look no further than the other comments under your post - This is fuel for the fire if you're part of the anti-vax crowd.

I also want to point out that blockchain identification is inherent in the design of ID2020, so even if it was implemented, it would not give a central database a way to track everyone, only a way to look up an individuals vaccine history at the time of scan, similar to how Google and Microsoft's data sharing for COVID is operating.

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Re:Gates Foundation will commit 'total attention' to coronav... by dang on Monday April 27, 2020 @04:13PM (#22999518)
We've banned this account for breaking the HN guidelines. Would you please not create accounts to do that with?

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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Re:Gates Foundation will commit 'total attention' to coronav... by skuthus on Monday April 27, 2020 @12:11PM (#22997171)
. I didn't mention anti-vax sentiment as the reason they should be ashamed, I was referring to the suggestion that ID2020 is in any way applicable to the current COVID crisis. It isnt.

2. I have no affiliation with Microsoft, and neither does Bill Gates, any longer.

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Re:Gates Foundation will commit 'total attention' to coronav... by dang on Tuesday April 28, 2020 @01:03AM (#23003566)
Violating the site guidelines like this will get your main account banned as well. No more of this, please.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:Gates Foundation will commit 'total attention' to coronav... by gccxsse on Monday April 27, 2020 @11:23AM (#22996686)
Do you really want to be injected with a highly rushed vaccine that hasn't been tested for longterm side effects? Remember when they were putting asbestos into everything? Or when they were spraying neighborhoods with 'harmless' insecticides? Or when companies fudge results to pass regulations or performance specs. The world is not very different from where it was 50 years ago. I would rather get the rona than get an unproven vaccine.
Re:Gates Foundation will commit 'total attention' to coronav... by skuthus on Monday April 27, 2020 @11:31AM (#22996769)
I am confused - Before we were talking about ID2020, now suddenly it is about vaccines? And from a 12-day old account, no less.

A quick look at your comment history tells me you are only here to bridage the site with anti-vaxx messaging.