Re:New Air Force One instruction manuals cost $84M
by NikolaeVarius on Sunday April 26, 2020 @09:59PM
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That's surprising from the Stress Guy. The ultimate load by definition should already have the safety factor + everything else factored in. Having a requirement go over the ultimate load, means its not really the ultimate load.
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Re:New Air Force One instruction manuals cost $84M
by WalterBright on Sunday April 26, 2020 @10:45PM
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There's always some concern that the math models correctly reflect reality. That's why there's a 50% safety factor, and it's backed up by the engineers' experience that things "look right", bench testing, and flight testing. (In early flight test, they'll tape strain gauges all over the place to see if the math predictions of the stress matches reality.)
Re:New Air Force One instruction manuals cost $84M
by voldacar on Sunday April 26, 2020 @11:20PM
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Did you ever experience any times when a part passed the math model, but didn't "look right"?
Re:New Air Force One instruction manuals cost $84M
by Scramblejams on Monday April 27, 2020 @08:00PM
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BTW, this happens all the time when using structural optimization programs, where you tell the computer what material you're using, how it's constrained and loaded, and then it figures out what it thinks is the optimal shape for the part.
It means somebody left out a load or a constraint, or messed up the material properties, which is all another way of saying the math model is wrong.
So when a part doesn't look right but seems to pass the math, be very suspicious of the math! :-)
Re:New Air Force One instruction manuals cost $84M
by WalterBright on Sunday April 26, 2020 @11:37PM
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Sort of. I spent much time arguing with Stress over how to calculate the torsional rigidity of the elevator structure.
Re:New Air Force One instruction manuals cost $84M
by WalterBright on Sunday April 26, 2020 @11:46PM
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I don't mean to be too hard on Stress. They're good guys, we both had the best interests of the design at heart. Their manager paid me a great compliment by wanting me to join their team. But I liked design work too much.