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Re:Seattle’s leaders let scientists take the lead, New York’... by lukastr0 on Sunday April 26, 2020 @02:45PM (#22989173)
> It's actually suspected that the whole epidemic in Europe originated from the first confirmed infection in Germany.

According to virologist Dr. Drosten, this idea has been mostly disproven. Some scientists believed it initially but after more debate, the consensus has emerged that both Italy and Germany got their virus directly from Wuhan or Shanghai.

Source (in German language): https://www.ndr.de/nachrichten/info/coronaskript174.pdf page 79

Re:Seattle’s leaders let scientists take the lead, New York’... by christkv on Sunday April 26, 2020 @04:37PM (#22990054)
The Milan area hosts more than 100000 Chinese foreign workers. Madrid nearly 200000. How many came back from vacation in December and January taking the virus with them? I think this was seeded earlier than we think.